This video is just disgraceful to the autistic community.

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19 Dec 2011, 12:19 am

As some of you may have already seen this, I feel the need to speak out about it. Others may feel differently about it, and I completely understand that, and your opinions. I am not afraid to speak my mind, about anything for that matter. But this did it for me. I understand that some mothers with children who have autism, and children who are on the spectrum may feel this way, and I DO understand the hardships you have to endure, but this is completely UNACCEPTABLE. What kind of mother says such harsh and hurtful things like this about their own CHILDREN!? knowing damn well that because of their rank on the spectrum, they probably can't interpret/filter others feelings/emotions, so that just automatically gives you the right to speak like this?
What kind of mother thinks about driving over a bridge with their disabled child, and has NO guilt about it, or even can say such a horrendous thing so bluntly as she did!? What kind of mother can say such brutal and hateful things, such as dealing with financial issues, all because they have a child with special needs, who NEEDS that extra help, Or thinks of the worst things that can possibly happen for their child's future, like not getting married, or having children and a family of their own? It's just so funny because they are only optimistic for a few seconds, but then out of the woodwork they hope for an immaculate recovery for their children. Deep down in the black pits they call their hearts, they wish that they've never planted the seeds of life. You know, the seeds that just so happen to have been an AUTISTIC CHILD. At least that's what Autism Speaks is trying to make it look like.
Oh God, I wish my mother would say this kind of s**t to me to my face, because you know what? I CAN feel emotions, and I CAN feel other's pain and suffering. But this, this is just sad, sad BS! I do not pity any of these ungrateful women, because they don't deserve to be felt sorry for.

I completely understand that these women have it rough, big time no doubt, and that they were only trying to shed light on a dark subject, but it just wasn't done in the proper way.

As is the case with most Autism Speaks propaganda.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDMMwG7RrFQ&feature=share[/youtube]



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19 Dec 2011, 1:07 am

What gets me is that if their child had deafness, or blindness or cerebral palsy, or mental illness, or all of the above, there would be an outcry if this sort of video was made. But because they have autism, it's somehow ok?
Could you imagine if the Delizios, for example got up there and said" o my kid has been in 2 seperate car accidents, and had burns to 70% of her body and lost a hand and both feet, but poor little ME - I have to look after her???"



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19 Dec 2011, 1:14 am

Ah yes, this is that infamous Autism Speaks video. lol at the comments disabled on Youtube, gee I wonder why? :lol:

The fact it hasn't been taken down despite them 'changing their image' recently says a lot doesn't it?


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19 Dec 2011, 1:16 am

@ Opal:
I completely 100% agree with you. Things that are made like this are what deliberately give people in "The disabled" community a bad reputation. And yet they wonder why half of us feel the way we do about life. So, you can just thank these ungrateful f*****g idiots for that. This just shows you how ignorant and self centered people really are. It's a damned shame, and I hope God punishes them for all of their hurtful actions and words toward their children, not to mention false representation.

@ nexus: Are we not human beings too?



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19 Dec 2011, 1:19 am

I don't mind what they are saying, from what I've seen so far. But why are they saying it in front of the kids? They don't need to hear that s**t..

This does offer quite a bit of insight into what many parents might be feeling. And what they are feeling is perfectly natural. Their children are defective, and the whole reason for having them in the first place is pretty much gone. Any hopes and dreams they had for their child before the diagnosis are near-impossible. It's selfish, but it's a natural response.

At least they are being honest. No one wants to have a disabled child.



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19 Dec 2011, 1:21 am

opal wrote:
What gets me is that if their child had deafness, or blindness or cerebral palsy, or mental illness, or all of the above, there would be an outcry if this sort of video was made. But because they have autism, it's somehow ok?
Could you imagine if the Delizios, for example got up there and said" o my kid has been in 2 seperate car accidents, and had burns to 70% of her body and lost a hand and both feet, but poor little ME - I have to look after her???"


The parents should not be ignored. Any full time carer has it tough. It's a huge a commitment.



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19 Dec 2011, 1:23 am

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
I don't mind what they are saying, from what I've seen so far. But why are they saying it in front of the kids? They don't need to hear that sh**..

This does offer quite a bit of insight into what many parents might be feeling. And what they are feeling is perfectly natural. Their children are defective, and the whole reason for having them in the first place is pretty much gone. Any hopes and dreams they had for their child before the diagnosis are near-impossible. It's selfish, but it's a natural response.

At least they are being honest. No one wants to have a disabled child.


@ The perfect storm:
But that's just how life is. You take what God has given you, and you run with it. I understand that these monsters may feel hopeless for their children, but that doesn't change being a PARENT.



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19 Dec 2011, 1:26 am

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@ The perfect storm:
But that's just how life is. You take what God has given you, and you run with it. I understand that these monsters may feel hopeless for their children, but that doesn't change being a PARENT.


I don't think you really appreciate the toll autism can take on the parents.



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19 Dec 2011, 1:28 am

I sent them a message asking them politely to please take the video down as i feel it doesn't represent the autistic community well.

then i added this in:

- someone who is actually on the autistic spectrum



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19 Dec 2011, 1:33 am

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Sansomrocks1027 wrote:
@ The perfect storm:
But that's just how life is. You take what God has given you, and you run with it. I understand that these monsters may feel hopeless for their children, but that doesn't change being a PARENT.


I don't think you really appreciate the toll autism can take on the parents.


Oh no...you don't know what iv'e put my parents through as a child. I LOVE my parents for EVERYTHING that they have EVER done for me. Because if it wasn't for their love, support, and compassion, I wouldn't be sitting here typing this to you. THEY are the reason I am not like I used to be. They have fought for me tooth and nail, and they have made me a stronger and more compassionate person, and a more normal person at that. Don't tell me I don't appreciate the toll autism can take on the parents.

If one day I do have children of my own, and they have autistic traits such as myself, I will LOVE them with every fiber of my being. Not put on a drama show like these b*****s are.



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19 Dec 2011, 1:37 am

Sansomrocks1027 wrote:
@ nexus: Are we not human beings too?


Well the last time I checked we are.

I just find it amusing how they don't allow comments on that video, likely because Autistics were complaining about it there. That wouldn't look too good for them that actual Autistics were actually speaking for themselves and condemning their videos. I also find it interesting how it still there even though Autism Speaks is trying to "soften their image". I mean at least acknowledge that it's controversial and a lot of actual Autistics don't endorse it or just take it down, you know what I mean?


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19 Dec 2011, 1:40 am

Sansomrocks1027 wrote:
The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
Sansomrocks1027 wrote:
@ The perfect storm:
But that's just how life is. You take what God has given you, and you run with it. I understand that these monsters may feel hopeless for their children, but that doesn't change being a PARENT.


I don't think you really appreciate the toll autism can take on the parents.


Oh no...you don't know what iv'e put my parents through as a child. I LOVE my parents for EVERYTHING that they have EVER done for me. Because if it wasn't for their love, support, and compassion, I wouldn't be sitting here typing this to you. THEY are the reason I am not like I used to be. They have fought for me tooth and nail, and they have made me a stronger and compassionate person, and a more normal person at that. Don't tell me I don't appreciate the toll autism can take on the parents.

If one day I do have children of my own, and they have autistic traits such as myself, I will LOVE them with every fiber of my being. Not put on a drama show like these b*****s are.


Just seems like you're saying they should bottle all their negative feelings up inside forever. Or you think they are bad people for feeling that way in the first place. It's just not possible to be upbeat about something so unexpected and so potentially debilitating. Or perhaps not, in your case.

These just seem like normal responses to the issue to me. Are there any parents out there that disagree with the parents in the video?



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19 Dec 2011, 1:42 am

Nexus wrote:
Sansomrocks1027 wrote:
@ nexus: Are we not human beings too?


Well the last time I checked we are.

I just find it amusing how they don't allow comments on that video, likely because Autistics were complaining about it there. That wouldn't look too good for them that actual Autistics were actually speaking for themselves and condemning their videos. I also find it interesting how it still there even though Autism Speaks is trying to "soften their image". I mean at least acknowledge that it's controversial and a lot of actual Autistics don't endorse it or just take it down, you know what I mean?


@Nexus:

They act like we don't have voices. They DON'T want us to be heard. They just want to act like they are helping, so it boost's their image and so called "Funding." They just mask the real reasons and truths behind everything autistic. But little do they know WE HAVE A VOICE, and It IS going to be heard. This is the reason why I am 100% against autism speaks. It's all just a big crock of s**t. At least here on WP, we can speak our minds without getting our comments and messages deleted.



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19 Dec 2011, 1:42 am

The_Perfect_Storm wrote:
I don't mind what they are saying, from what I've seen so far. But why are they saying it in front of the kids? They don't need to hear that sh**..

This does offer quite a bit of insight into what many parents might be feeling. And what they are feeling is perfectly natural. Their children are defective, and the whole reason for having them in the first place is pretty much gone. Any hopes and dreams they had for their child before the diagnosis are near-impossible. It's selfish, but it's a natural response.

At least they are being honest. No one wants to have a disabled child.


Well, here's some honesty:

If anyone doesn't want to risk having a disabled child, they simply shouldn't have children. None of us get to control everything that happens in our lives, and sometimes things happen that take more work than anyone ever expects. They don't like having a disabled child? Let them imagine what it's like to be that child, living with parents who view them entirely as tragedies, failures, and burdens.

There's nothing wrong with grief over a diagnosis. That's natural. Viewing their children as defective and hopeless, however? That's pointless. That attitude is virtually guaranteed to lead to abusive treatment, abandoning children to the state, or simply murdering their children (as many have done). Everyone in the world is willing to sympathize with parents who have it so bad because their children are disabled and thus "defective" and "hopeless", but it's interesting how autistic children are tokenized as objects in these narratives, and there's little or no consideration about the children as themselves and as people.



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19 Dec 2011, 1:49 am

nat4200 wrote:
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...Not put on a drama show like these b*****s are.

I don't want to defend NT speaks or whatever, but you know that that is the point of the ad right? (to shock parents of NT children into sympathising with the parents of children with autism)

For what it was (the advertising tactic I mean) it actually seemed rather restrained.


@nat4200:
But they shouldn't have to "Shock" anyone, for sympathy especially. They are doing it for all the wrong reasons. They are making it look like having a child with an ASD is an abomination to society, therefore all the pity rolls in. And it shouldn't be like that at all. Parents should be EMBRACING their children. Sure I DO know it can be hard, I was hard for my parents, but you grow. Some will change, and some won't. But that doesn't mean you are mortally doomed to death. Parent and child alike.