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icyfire4w5
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21 Jan 2012, 10:05 pm

Incident 1...
NT: You need to have more um, sense. (He didn't mention "common", but I assumed that he meant "common sense".) How to describe sense? Sense is like um, when you know which shoes match your clothes and which shoes don't. You don't pair flip flops with a nice ball gown, for example.
Me (My thoughts): No wonder I have zero sense of fashion.

Incident 2...
Me: How do you define "normal"?
NT: What do you mean by "normal"? Your question is so vague. Do you mean "How do you define a normal economy?", or do you mean something else?
Me: Um, I mean, "psychologically normal".
NT: We don't define "normal", so ridiculous. We "just know" whether a person is "normal" or not.

Gosh, how do NTs manage to "just know" so many things that I don't know? Are they born with common sense, or do they work hard to accumulate it?

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NT: In life, not everything is academic. You can't study for everything as though you are studying theories--you will fail in many things. For many things, you need to sharpen your eyes and your ears and "just know" what to do next. If you rely on studying and memorizing formulas, you will forget your formulas one day. Then you won't know what to do.



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21 Jan 2012, 10:06 pm

I think "NT" is referring to something instinctual or something so ingrained in them, it seems like they know something on a subconscious level. It's frustrating for me too.


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22 Jan 2012, 8:05 am

icyfire4w5 wrote:
Incident 1...
NT: You need to have more um, sense. (He didn't mention "common", but I assumed that he meant "common sense".) How to describe sense? Sense is like um, when you know which shoes match your clothes and which shoes don't. You don't pair flip flops with a nice ball gown, for example.
Me (My thoughts): No wonder I have zero sense of fashion.

Incident 2...
Me: How do you define "normal"?
NT: What do you mean by "normal"? Your question is so vague. Do you mean "How do you define a normal economy?", or do you mean something else?
Me: Um, I mean, "psychologically normal".
NT: We don't define "normal", so ridiculous. We "just know" whether a person is "normal" or not.

Gosh, how do NTs manage to "just know" so many things that I don't know? Are they born with common sense, or do they work hard to accumulate it?

Incident 3...
NT: In life, not everything is academic. You can't study for everything as though you are studying theories--you will fail in many things. For many things, you need to sharpen your eyes and your ears and "just know" what to do next. If you rely on studying and memorizing formulas, you will forget your formulas one day. Then you won't know what to do.



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Gosh, how do NTs manage to "just know" so many things that I don't know? Are they born with common sense, or do they work hard to accumulate it?


Common sense is an ability to use foresight based on the previous experience.

A Visual Spatial intelligence can affect the doing of things such as tying shoes, cooking, matching things, etc.

You could say the "sense" that is intuitive here, is the same common sense that you get when making a prediction or have an expectation on an academic note.

They 'know' by visual experience, so they do "study," albeit non-verbally.

Some of these folks are non-verbal, and do poorly, hence lack a sense, where you could excel in an academic setting.



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22 Jan 2012, 8:13 am

I hate that. For one person something that seems like "common sense" may be a completely unknown and alien concept to another person.



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22 Jan 2012, 9:21 am

gailryder17 wrote:
I think "NT" is referring to something instinctual or something so ingrained in them, it seems like they know something on a subconscious level. It's frustrating for me too.


^ This. It's mostly instinct. On many occasions, humans can literally smell that something is "wrong" with a person, i.e. that they are somehow different. For example, I've read that women, who have a better sense of smell than men, can sniff out people with schizophrenia.

Source: http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles ... ove?page=4

Psychology Today wrote:
From diabetes to viral infection to schizophrenia, unusually sweet or strong body odors are a warning cue that ancestral females in search of good genes for their offspring may have been designed to heed.