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24 Feb 2012, 7:09 am

After thinking about it, I guess I found why I am upset about errors.

I find it to be related to the poison-remedy scheme. Examples of such schemes :
- you must feel guilt but I you ask God it will forgive you
- you must be ashamed of yourself but stand up to obey

When you do an error, someone can tell you that you must fall into such schemes. So there is a social anxiety here. I don't want to feel guilty, I think that we can quietly take time to understand our errors. And I don't want to be ashamed, I am a human, and human may do errors. And I don't want to obey. So basically, I have an aversion of both opposite in these schemes.

I realised that I would almost deny my errors just to avoid such social pressure.

Do you feel the same about this ?



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24 Feb 2012, 7:56 am

I'm hard on myself about errors. Always have been. In both my military and civilian professions, an error can cause a lot of problems for a lot of people. But after 30 years of atheism, I came to know a loving and forgiving God and my salvation. Things have been much easier since then. When you make a mistake, take responsibility for it, sure. But also take the time to forgive yourself as well. The difference between a sin and a mistake is this: A sin is something you do knowing that it's wrong, for example, stealing from someone. A mistake is a lapse in judgment which brings about a set of undesirable circumstances. It's not done intentionally. Things just happen because as humans we're imperfect.

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24 Feb 2012, 8:17 am

Well you can forgive yourself as an atheist too. Instead of repeating "Please God forgive me" you can repeat "I am a human being and can be forgiven". So I would say that it is not because you became a believer that you got better, but because you accepted forgiveness. But if you prefer believing in God, that's ok.



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24 Feb 2012, 8:55 am

I do have a tendency to beat myself over the head over mistakes, but after over 5 decades of life, I have developed perspective, and coping mechanisms. I remind myself that no body is perfect, and that everyone makes mistakes. I tell myself to learn from them, and I have done that to some extent. I also remind myself that it was not a deliberate wrong doing, but an unintended error.

This has helped me. I hope it helps others, too.

As for religion, I went from a Catholic upbringing, to an "I don't know what happens after death, so I don't know what to believe", to now having a foot in the Intelligent Design camp. However, I have never minded people being a believer, or an atheist. The only ones I really mind are Hatetheists, who hate all religious observance, and want to deny others the right to do so, and I also don't care for believers of any faith who try to force their beliefs on others. The people at both these extremes have no right to force their belief, or lack of same on other people, or to interfere in the beliefs of others.

Sorry for the mini-rant. I am not feeling nasty, just expressing a strong opinion. And please note, there is no foul or nasty language. I like finding clean ways to disagree in writing. Posting a written opinion can be a good, and healthy way to vent.


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24 Feb 2012, 8:57 am

Been there, done that. XD


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