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23 Mar 2012, 7:59 am

Hi all

After those years struggling get friendships and relationships hold together with people at college and university over past 4 years. Because of alcoholism, bad attitude and lack of acceptance of people seeing me. Hence they always see me as in wrong way. I only get along with one person per semester only recently from last year to now. Because the person is not judgemental of my conditions. Lot of people doesn't accept me socially. Getting me to miss out on things.

First of all, I don't drink alcohol, I am a virgin because I don't get with drunk girls to have fun with. I have morals. I don't like weak and selfish people. It always lot of people go have sex and skinny dipping these days when they are drinking. At some results, if they are together with same people it still likely to occur as well because they are comfortable each others. So, lot of people aren't comfortable with me at all, because I don't drink and I am suck at verbal communication. Sometimes I get jealous at the people I know they get sex and skinny dipping. Its sad for me. Most people say it not big deal. That sound so stupid to me, making everything in my life is not a big deal. This is BS!

I am finishing uni this November (finally), then planning to do working holiday program for 12months to Aspen Colorado and rest of US from December this year. Does this help my life to improve? Could be any better than like what I have been experienced for past years? Could lead to better opportunities for sex and skinny dipping?

Not sure if anyone going to answer that here. Thanks.



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23 Mar 2012, 2:24 pm

If you want to get involved in that kind of activity, there's really only one thing you can do. You have to be the kind of person who gets drunk, has sex and goes skinny dipping.

You say they won't accept you, but are you accepting them? You judge them for drinking and being selfish just as they judge you for being different. It works both ways.

There's no guarantee that it will work, but if you want a chance to be involved in those kind of wild situations, you're going to have to learn to drink.

I don't like those kind of people at all when I'm sober, I can't stand noise and stupid rowdy nonsense, and I don't really like drinking, but there have been times when I've managed to enjoy myself while getting drunk and getting involved in group gatherings like that. The alcohol temporarily changes the way you think and feel, and makes it a lot easier to tolerate the situation, it is a central part of a lot of social activities which just would not happen at all without people being loosened up by drinking.

It's risky, you could have a horrible time. Even with a lot of good times there will be horrible times eventually, but yeah, if that's the kind of activity you want to experience, you're going to have to take the risk.



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23 Mar 2012, 7:44 pm

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If you want to get involved in that kind of activity, there's really only one thing you can do. You have to be the kind of person who gets drunk, has sex and goes skinny dipping.

You say they won't accept you, but are you accepting them? You judge them for drinking and being selfish just as they judge you for being different. It works both ways.

There's no guarantee that it will work, but if you want a chance to be involved in those kind of wild situations, you're going to have to learn to drink.

I don't like those kind of people at all when I'm sober, I can't stand noise and stupid rowdy nonsense, and I don't really like drinking, but there have been times when I've managed to enjoy myself while getting drunk and getting involved in group gatherings like that. The alcohol temporarily changes the way you think and feel, and makes it a lot easier to tolerate the situation, it is a central part of a lot of social activities which just would not happen at all without people being loosened up by drinking.

It's risky, you could have a horrible time. Even with a lot of good times there will be horrible times eventually, but yeah, if that's the kind of activity you want to experience, you're going to have to take the risk.


Of course I accept them, my friends always drink socially. Same for my family. I never meant to judge them since they are hurting my feelings due to poor communication. Hence lack of interaction socially to me. I get frustrated and that with people in those situations, because lot of people drink all the time.I can't drink, because it's not healthy to me.

I thought there some sober people who has friends who drinks and stuff without AS or whatever still get those situations. So why people do it? Why skinny dipping? Why they don't do it when they are sober compared to those naturists? Naturists are people are respectful in skinny dipping situations, but when you are drinking I don't think there any respect. Hence you go out of control.

It really bothers me when in those situations, its making me feel like a baby kid who can't grow up become like getting the experiences kind of stuff. I have been trying my best to get the opportunities, but still no one accept me.

I tell you what, I do accept myself and I am happy person. So why people leave me out?



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23 Mar 2012, 8:08 pm

People usually only do things like skinny dipping while drunk because drinking lowers inhibitions and reduces anxiety. The same people from those gatherings would probably feel awkward too, like you, if they weren't drunk. Drinking is what makes them comfortable enough to do it in the first place.

I don't know much about naturists, but they strike me as being pretentious and probably untrustworthy. I wouldn't advise a person with autism to hang around with them because I would fear that they would be taken advantage of. I don't know, maybe some of them are nice people, but people with such abnormal ways of life often have beliefs and values which are vastly different to what you would expect from most people. While they believe it is fine to sit around with a bunch of naked people, and show off their junk to each other, they may also believe it's fine to do other things that you might not approve of.

There's nothing wrong with feeling like you shouldn't have to wear clothes if you don't want to, but still, there are a lot of dodgy people out there.



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23 Mar 2012, 9:32 pm

Focus on your future and not people. I go to bed early while people downstairs make noise, smoke pot and listen to music. I want no part of it, not because I think I'm better but because I need my sleep, pot makes me sick and I don't like their taste in music. Sometimes it's ok but not at 3am in the morning.
If you don't want to drink, then don't. I only drink a little bit to ease my anxiety.
Maybe after you leave university you'll find a group of people that you'll get along with better. But I never found that group so now I'm on my own and feel better for it.


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23 Mar 2012, 11:42 pm

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People usually only do things like skinny dipping while drunk because drinking lowers inhibitions and reduces anxiety. The same people from those gatherings would probably feel awkward too, like you, if they weren't drunk. Drinking is what makes them comfortable enough to do it in the first place.

I don't know much about naturists, but they strike me as being pretentious and probably untrustworthy. I wouldn't advise a person with autism to hang around with them because I would fear that they would be taken advantage of. I don't know, maybe some of them are nice people, but people with such abnormal ways of life often have beliefs and values which are vastly different to what you would expect from most people. While they believe it is fine to sit around with a bunch of naked people, and show off their junk to each other, they may also believe it's fine to do other things that you might not approve of.

There's nothing wrong with feeling like you shouldn't have to wear clothes if you don't want to, but still, there are a lot of dodgy people out there.


Well it seems unfair that I would not get opportunity to experience skinny dipping while being sober. It sounds pretty stupid if means that I have to drink alcohol to get to try skinny dipping socially with the friends or whoever. One time all of my friends got drunk and theres a water next to us, I was only sober person out there and no one did skinny dipping. It made a different story when I wasn't there next time. To this point I believe that no one really invite me to things socially because 1) I don't drink alcohol 2)have social confusion and hearing loss issues 3) also judgemental based on my abilities.

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Focus on your future and not people. I go to bed early while people downstairs make noise, smoke pot and listen to music. I want no part of it, not because I think I'm better but because I need my sleep, pot makes me sick and I don't like their taste in music. Sometimes it's ok but not at 3am in the morning.
If you don't want to drink, then don't. I only drink a little bit to ease my anxiety.
Maybe after you leave university you'll find a group of people that you'll get along with better. But I never found that group so now I'm on my own and feel better for it.


Lot of friends I made with and my family goes drinking, and my friends smoke pot. Sometimes I get along with them, but still social confusion. First few weeks knowing me they were like wanna have some and that. I refused, then they got over it. Hence after while they weren't inviting me anymore. It just lack of respect for me. I told them how I feel, but they kept saying I was dreaming and making stories up. They did helped my depression sometimes by giving me advice. So, this made me confused about friendships part. I thought having friends is more like accepting each others and play role in inviting someone each time.

I really really really hope that my life will change a lot after I finish my studies November this year. Firstly, I am the groomsman for my sister wedding, then going to do working holiday travel program to Aspen Colorado for one season from December and then travel around the US with hopefully new friends and/or a girlfriend.

Furthermore to this case, does it really matters for me to experience? Lot of people made me confused by saying 'not a big deal' for doing stuff. People including my friends do hook ups, have sex, do wild parties and skinny dipping. Okay so what does this experience for US should come?



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24 Mar 2012, 12:10 am

Don't deny who you are just to imitate them. They like that stuff; you don't. Why do you think you'd have fun doing things you don't like just because other people do those things? Find yourself some people who are more into the things you enjoy. There are a good many people who don't like to get drunk and have random sex with random people. Don't forget to look outside your own age group; people who are older than you are often more mature. I've got a few friends who are in their 50s to 80s (I'm in my 20s), and the age gap matters less than you might think. Plus, they've lived decades more than I have, and have seen much more; so they are more interesting to talk to. And they've gotten over their young, wild, sex-and-skinnydipping phase. Or they never went through one to begin with.

A good thing to remember when you are meeting people is to get to know them--ask them questions about who they are and what they like to do. You can see if you have anything in common that way. You can have a friendly relationship with somebody you don't have anything in common with; but you most likely wouldn't become close friends because there just wouldn't be anything to do that you would both enjoy.


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24 Mar 2012, 12:44 am

Callista wrote:
Don't deny who you are just to imitate them. They like that stuff; you don't. Why do you think you'd have fun doing things you don't like just because other people do those things? Find yourself some people who are more into the things you enjoy. There are a good many people who don't like to get drunk and have random sex with random people. Don't forget to look outside your own age group; people who are older than you are often more mature. I've got a few friends who are in their 50s to 80s (I'm in my 20s), and the age gap matters less than you might think. Plus, they've lived decades more than I have, and have seen much more; so they are more interesting to talk to. And they've gotten over their young, wild, sex-and-skinnydipping phase. Or they never went through one to begin with.

A good thing to remember when you are meeting people is to get to know them--ask them questions about who they are and what they like to do. You can see if you have anything in common that way. You can have a friendly relationship with somebody you don't have anything in common with; but you most likely wouldn't become close friends because there just wouldn't be anything to do that you would both enjoy.


But I still like to try skinny dipping and sex out of curiosity. The problem is people don't agree or unacceptable to me about it. They do those stuff to other friends without me. Hence leaving me out. I never told anyone that I am against it or whatever. Lot of people sees that when I ask about skinny dipping leads to sex, I was like whoa whoa what the hell. That just scare the s**t out of me. I never intend to include sex in skinny dipping sessions. Its ridiculous to think of that not what I meant!

It not fair that I am inexperienced up to 21 now and still trying trying trying like it forever. Now final year of uni, is that good? Going to US like I said in other post above is good? Could it change to make it better opportunity for me?

Sometimes I feel bad accusing some friends about doing things they tell me they won't do that kind of stuff. Well I believe there are so many dishonest people out there. Now this best friend who is a lesbian from last semester who from the states told me she doesn't go hooking up, get drunk all the time since she is on meds and fitness stuff. After she left Australia back to her uni, she changed a lot. Becoming more drunker and not sure if she hook up with someone, one of her friends told me she did. She lost her iphone last week that she got angry about. Sometimes Im worrying about someone lifestyle like me worrying about her because I love her as a friend and I don't want her to be in a risk.

So see how I am these days? I am caring person, I have respect for myself and everyone else. I learn, teach and all of that for everything. Now uni seems invalid, I am going to warn everyone of you before starting uni, it going to be more wilder than high school. I am glad that I am finishing up. I am keen to go abroad for first time in my life! That is USA!



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24 Mar 2012, 6:07 pm

Well I guess I fail at those threads......