Can introverts become more assertive as they get older?

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27 Mar 2012, 12:28 pm

I think this can apply to Aspies or NTs, because I've read on WP that some Aspies are assertive and speak their mind, and I've been on other general NT forums where some find assertiveness hard - although assertiveness can be more of an obstacle for a lot of Aspies. Well, it is for me anyway. I believe that assertiveness is my main social issue, the part of social interaction that I find most difficult.

But I was speaking to a good friend the other day, and she is a lot older than me, but is very introverted, and she said that when she was my age she always stayed quiet and just let people walk all over her and appeared as a ''mug'' to other people, and people just took advantage of her all the time because she found it hard not to let them. But now she is in her mid-40s, she said she's learnt how to say ''no'' and be more firm and stand up for herself more, and she's got good at putting her foot down, and she also doesn't care whether it backfires or not. Her new attitude is ''I'm passed caring about what other people will think, I'm fed up with letting people treat me like a bit of dirt'', whereas, like me, her attitude used to be ''I'm afraid to stand up for myself in case I say the wrong thing and it might backfire or I might end up hurting someone's feelings, and being assertive might risk in me getting bullied or having to put up with hostility at work'' when she was in her early 20s, like me.

Has anyone else here changed as you got older from when you was in your teens and 20s? Have you got thick-skinned, and more able to put your foot down? Will I ever change? Or does having enough bad experiences with people gradually change the way you react to other people's behaviour?


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27 Mar 2012, 12:40 pm

Some can, some can't. I couldn't. I've only become more introverted, more anxious and less social over the years. More autistic, if you so will.



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27 Mar 2012, 12:40 pm

I've had complaints about the lack of it. I'm non aggressive and I had to take control or be controlled. That's society for you, and you have squat and claim your ground. In fact, people won't respect you if they see you are holding back.

I was considered shy and to me shyness is anxiety. It shouldn't linger into adulthood. This form of it is a dysfunction. It think the best way is to boldly step out there and make mistakes. You learn and make progress. You adapt.

I had complaints about assertiveness till mid 30's.



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27 Mar 2012, 12:48 pm

When I was younger, up until my teens, when I was away from home or with others than my family at home, I was so very quiet and shy. People could take advantage of me, I was terrified of everyone, terrified of disapproval or of being noticed. I was the easiest mark you could ever find for something.

I started learning from friends, slowly, how to stand up for myself. Now I'm very assertive, and when I need to be I'm agressive. I went from being a shy, quiet girl who wouldn't say "s**t" if she had a mouthful to a lady nobody wants to mess with and who has brass balls the size of grapefruits (metaphoricaly speaking on that last one of course :-) ) I didn't set out to do that, I only wanted to stop being treated quite so badly but once I started it I couldn't stop until I was able to feel, or fake, confidence in every situation.

You can do it. I have faith that you can, if you want to and try. There is no one set way to go about it, but if you want me to, and are interested in trying some things I did back then that helped me, let me know and I'll write some of them down and post them. I'm very very tired today though and didn't sleep well at all last night, so it will have to be sometimes tomorrow afternoon or evening (my time, CDT) before I can start it, but I'll be glad to. I may forget to check this thread back, so if it's something you are interested in, please send me a PM and let me know, that way I can keep it right there in my inbox and I'll see it and remember it.


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27 Mar 2012, 12:54 pm

with experience, i learned when and how to stick up for myself. i still tend to be quiet, but if it's important to me, i will let you know about it, nicely, of course.



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27 Mar 2012, 12:54 pm

I've become a lot more assertive from when I was younger. When I was in elementary school I was shy to the extremes and I let people walk all over me and tease me and I didn't do anything about it. Even high school I was basically like that. When I started going to college I made more friends and went out more, I had a boyfriend and I got a lot more assertive. Then came my job, a preschool teacher. I had to become more assertive because I couldn't let the children walk all over me. I had a lot of problems with that when I first started teaching. I moved to a different province, moved back and I've changed a lot from that little girl I used to be. I'm still really shy but I don't let people walk all over me anymore. I'm actually more assertive than a lot of my friends now.



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27 Mar 2012, 12:58 pm

Become assertive or watch everything you want pass you by and regret it for the rest of your life.



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27 Mar 2012, 1:02 pm

You may have to yes.

Although in my case it's made me worse if anything, because now I tend to be a bit clumsy and forceful.



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27 Mar 2012, 2:25 pm

I'm less assertive because I'm more aware about other people's thoughts than when I was younger and I don't want to risk upseting them. Or I try to avoid them which makes it easier.



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27 Mar 2012, 2:32 pm

Moving from the prince, princess, maid, joker, archetypes........ and entering

The Queen the crone
The King the old fart ........archetypes.......

as one ages, means that you are older and wiser (supposedly anyhoows) and more assertive



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27 Mar 2012, 2:34 pm

extroversion =/= assertiveness

I'm extremely introverted, but I can be assertive when I need to be. If I have something to say, I WILL say it.


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27 Mar 2012, 2:49 pm

SammichEater wrote:
extroversion =/= assertiveness

I'm extremely introverted, but I can be assertive when I need to be. If I have something to say, I WILL say it.


Agree, introversion has nothing to do with assertiveness.

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27 Mar 2012, 3:19 pm

I became more assertive and vocal and I think it contributed to me getting fired.



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27 Mar 2012, 3:23 pm

VIDEODROME wrote:
I became more assertive and vocal and I think it contributed to me getting fired.


Are you sure you are not confusing assertiveness with aggressiveness?

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27 Mar 2012, 3:30 pm

I am an introvert, but can be assertive when necessary. However, I am better able to do it now than when I was younger, so I think the life experience we acquire with age does help us deal better with the rest of the world. I am still not social, but will talk with people when I choose to do so.


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27 Mar 2012, 3:55 pm

SammichEater wrote:
extroversion =/= assertiveness

I'm extremely introverted, but I can be assertive when I need to be. If I have something to say, I WILL say it.
Exactly. Being introverted is not the same as being shy/ lacking in confidenceor assertiveness. It just means you need alone time to re-energise.


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