Is it just me or is this all f****d up?

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I did a bit of thinking today.

We're all born with this condition. Whether you have Autism, Aspergers, etc. Well, why would you want to CONTRIBUTE to a society that shuns people who are the slightest bit different? This doesn't just have to do with mental ability either but style of dress, sexual orientation, etc.

Why should I "get a job" just to help the very same system that puts us down in the first place? The very same people who don't accept me. Why should I keep this oppressive system going by contributing to it? I live with my parents. I have everything paid for, I have stuff made.

I detest consummerism. I'm a minimalist for the most part. I don't CARE about owning "a big house, a fancy car, a big screen tv, pool, etc". None of that stuff fulfills me. I don't want to bring a child into such a world that has no sympathy for those with differences, be it mental or appearance related. I have no interest in starting a family.

Do any of you even think this deep regarding such a matter?

No, you're not the only one who thinks that deep about it.

I do somewhat often, and for the most part I agree with you.

I don't foresee things changing much anytime soon though, unfortunately.

The only option I have is to push myself to do stuff for me and me only. f**k everyone else.

Whether you like it or not you are part of this world of diversified human population and you have a responsibility to your parents who brought you into the world and a responsibility to any siblings that you have and a responsibility to any friends that you have, who might depend on your help and advice should they be in trouble. That doesn't mean, you have to be a big consumer, who owns a big house, who has a wife and children to raise. There's nothing wrong with having an opinion about the world we live and a beef about consumerism and the way you choose to live your life is your business, but simply opting out is not an option.

No, No I don't. My parents had me out of greed. They had me out of societal norms, and I was born with a defect. I've had to pay with it for 20 years of my life so far.

I don't see why I owe them anything. I don't care if they provided for me.

then don't work for them. work for those whose values you admire and agree with. better yet, start your own business if it bugs you that much. not everyone is putting us down. not everyone is shunning us. you are tarring everyone with the same brush. for the most part, such organizations and societies are in the (vocal) minority.

are you saying we should only mooch from society and it's resources, and not give anything back? we have gifts too, things to offer, i want to see us share them.

we are all in this together.



don't think i get it...can you explain please?

Sure.

People usually have children out of a desire to "continue the family name" or to have a miniature version of themselves. People think that if they have children, just maybe they'll cheat death. This would explain parents who force kids to do what THEY wish instead of letting them live their own lives.

Yep.

sure, many do that. the typical pageant mom fits this bill. because they didn't have a chance to do whatever they wanted to do in their own life, their kid is a sort of second chance. is this what you mean?



thank god you're only one person, then. we'd be f****d otherwise, if we all took for ourselves only. though i guess you wouldn't care.

Yes. The sky is indeed falling. We, as ASD people, need to make an effort for the same reason that black people had to make an effort in the 1890s in the face of abject racism. The same reason women had to make an effort for 8000 years before gaining "almost" equality. The same reason homosexuals had to make an effort up until this century, and still do. If you play into the stereotype that society has laid out for you, you will never win.

Let me ask you this- you don't need a job right? Live with your parents? Don't want kids? What will you do for money after your parents are gone? Do they have 8 million dollars to leave you? Who will take care of you when you are old if you have no kids? That's some deep s*** for you to think about my friend.

Yes this world is difficult. No one ever said that life's gonna be easy. The day you move out of your parents house, you're in the real world. Listen in life, its all about adapting. If you want to survive this society, you're going to have to learn to adapt and just go along with the majority.

I know you don't understand some of neurotypical behavior but you just have to go along with it. When you have a job, you have to be likeable. If you're disliked, trust me it will be harder for you. You have to be friendly and just go along with the pack. For many aspies, they fail to see this and can't adapt and they complain about not being liked. People don't like them because they act like as*holes to other people. You can't act like an as*hole. You have to learn to adapt. I'm not saying you have to agree with everything someone says or have their same ideals but you can't come off as unfriendly or rude. Otherwise people arne't going to like you. Too many aspie guys, iv'e seen them make this mistake. Because I understand them I don't dislike them but this isn't going to be the case with most people. You're right people are mean to those who are different, but as long as you're friendly to people, then they're more likely to overlook these things.

Finally do get a job. Everyone with high-functioning autism is capable of working. Every single one of you. Once you get out into the real world, its sink or swim. What you gonna do when mommy and daddy are no longer around? Once they're gone, no one will give a s**t whether you get things done or not. You have to be self-motivated or else you will fail living in the real world.

If you think that will bring you happiness I guess that is what you have to do. I doubt it's the only option though. It sounds like the option your hurt feelings have decided upon to protect yourself from further hurt.

I think society and the world as a whole are pretty f****d up as well, but if I can find some way to benefit from it, power to me. My desires are pretty simple; a roof over my head, food in the fridge, and a decent internet connection, to sum it up. It would be pretty neat to travel the world and just see how other people live as well, though there's a lot of red tape and other BS one has to deal with to do that. I guess they need to do something to hold back the drug smugglers and terrorists, even though the worst of them seem to get through in the end.

But the big house, fancy car, swimming pool, bigscreen TV, trophy wife, all that bullcrap? f**k that. I don't need a f*****g mansion to live in, and cars are just a waste of money unless you do a lot of long-distance travel. I'd rather just move to a city with a decent bike trail system, and go to and from places that way.

As for the other materialistic BS, I've owned so much crap in my life, that it's become a burden for me, and I am SICK of having to deal with so much damn stuff! That's not to say I don't have any prized possessions, I'd just rather have those few things that I cherish most, along with the basic things I need to survive, and nothing else. When I was younger I had a hard time letting things go, and to tell the honest truth, I still have a lot of trouble letting things go, but it's such a pain in the ass to deal with all the crap I own, that I wish I could just burn it all and forget about it.

I'm a renegade. I stick out like a sore thumb in a society full of materialistic, "work hard play hard", shit-for-brains robots, because I actually have a mind of my own and I don't just shut up and do what I'm told. I may seem meek and harmless on the outside, and I AM pretty much harmless, but on the inside burns a fiery punk spirit. I think I could be a revolutionary, except I lack the charisma to do so, and if I were charismatic enough to be successful, I would probably become so powerful that it would corrupt me, and I would become just as bad as the people I rail against. It's an unfortunate vicious circle, so I guess I'll forever be a quiet guy who happens to have his own opinions about things.

I can understand the OP's sentiment although it's not as simple as that.

People claim to believe that they should all be understanding and accepting towards those that are different/struggling and should help them. But in reality most people are doing the opposite. They ridicule, oppress and ostracize such people. It's natural for anyone to feel strong resentment when he/she has been treated in that way.

The problem is that you will not be able to survive if you don't somehow make money. Working is not only your contribution to the (horrible) world but also a means for your own survival.

The problem with this is that whether you like it or not, you're already a part of that society, just by living and breathing within it, and even only in proximity to it, and regardless of your outlook on society, you have to rely on that same f'ed up system to survive. Your parents won't be alive forever, you can't always be in the situation you are in right now, it's not pretty, no, but that's life. Whether or not we want to contribute to this kind of society is irrelevant, we don't have a choice but to put up with it, that is the reality of the situation, that is our only option, short of living on the street, and believe me, that is a far worse reality to live with. If you don't want to contribute to the problem, then be part of the solution, go and speak in public and make people aware of the very real issues that you want addressed by the public, make those changes, or at the very least, set the building blocks for others to continue the work from that point. Inaction is unacceptable, not for public opinion, but rather for survival's sake. Inaction changes nothing, and if you want change in society, you have to start that change yourself, nobody else is going to do it for you, and frankly speaking, you could p*ss away your whole life expecting other people to take that first step when you should be doing it yourself.
So you don't want to start a family, big whoop, that's fine. But you still have to survive, and not figuring out what to do early on in life (at the point you're at right now) is going to cost you big time after your parents are gone, because if you can't get assistance then you inevitably will have to have a job, and nobody hires people who are up in their years even now, that will never change.

My point is this; Life isn't pretty, it's not safe, it's not fun, it's not even fair 99% of the time, but we all have to do it, we all have to put up with it, and we all have to deal with idiotic people in society who have ridiculous ideas about our conditions. You can either let it defeat you in the long run by doing nothing to help yourself, or you can grab life by the balls now and save yourself the effort later, and come out ahead. We all have to survive in this system, like it or not.

P.S. Having read some of these other comments, I can tell you've just heard about everything I just said lol. Also, don't take what I've said in this post as a personal attack or negative outlook on you, because it's not, I was where you were at one point and I kick myself for not doing what I had to do at that time, because if I had, I'd have been a lot better off. I want you to succeed in life, but you can't wait for the sh*t to hit the fan before you do something, that's only going to leave you in a hole that is very hard to get out of.
Anyway, good luck to you, I hope you do what's best for you. And remember one thing: Survival is number 1, without survival, we are pretty much screwed

Not everyone is cruel to people who are different, and many are different themselves. Homosexuals, autistics, etc, are "society", too. Some people still don't know better as adults and will hopefully grow out of it.

I don't want to play most of the games out there, but other people are growing my food and maintaining the power lines to my home so that I have electricity. I don't have to like them, but it's fair to work, too.