Why do NTs think this about us?

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Why do us aspies often come across too NTs as exploitive and they think we take advantage of others?

1. haven't heard that. 2. nothing is just nonautistic

Some of the symptoms fit sociopath/psychopath (even thought autism or aspergers is completely different). By fit I mean they seem like that fit. For example sociopath- lack of empathy. Aspergers- trouble showing empathy.

I've never heard that one, and in my life it's the opposite.......people take advantage of me. Though I have been accused of malicious manipulation before which honestly I am not that good at the social game that I would know how to do that. I think it's more like me having trouble wording things right so they might think I'm trying to like imply I want something without directly saying it....when I'm just having trouble wording things. I've been accused of being selfish and such when I'm so overwhelmed by crap going on in my head I just don't have a lot of energy to spend on worrying about everyone else 24/7 like I tend to do anyways.

My uncle accuses me of taking advantge of my parents by not working or having a job for ages

So your basing what your uncle said on what 99% of people think?

Well uhh, he does realize your parents chose to take on the responsibility of helping you out when they had a child? now unless you're sitting around doing nothing and have never even attempted to apply for work or anything then I could maybe see that argument. But if you have tried working or at least applying and if you help out at all around the house your not 'taking advantage.'

I mean for example I have a friend who's had a couple other friends staying at his house.......he told them a week, they've been there a month and have eaten all the food and don't contribute at all to the household him and his parents live in. naturally they think those two are taking advantage and want them out.........now if they were buying food and helping with house/yard work that would be one thing but apparently they just sit around and eat food all day.

NTs don't think that way of me. They think that I'm pleasant to be around.

i have not even bothered applying for jobs and don't help out around the house so yeah.......

Last edited by Jamesy on 19 Apr 2012, 11:43 am, edited 1 time in total.

Everyone comes across that way to me. Everyone seems to exploit each other, environment and they call that survival or society.

It's possible that some people are getting that impression from reading about Steve Jobs and what's-his-name (the guy who created Facebook), people whom the Autism community claims as their own, and in their success have exploited others. The lack of Theory of Mind is sometimes stereotyped as meaning a lack of compassion.

The truth is, ANYONE who has gotten rich has probably done so at the expense of others.

Well then I still think he's going about it the wrong way....I mean technically they are your parents so living there when you haven't moved out yet is not really taking advantage. But sometimes it can be frustrating for people even parents if you're living at their house but not lifting a finger at all. However maybe you have impairments that interfere with your abilities, in which case I can see why you'd be confused about being told its taking advantage of them. But if you do have the ability....I do recommend you at least attempt some things.

But yeah there have been times even kinda long periods of time where i have not done much, due to feeling to depressed and horrid to get up the motivation......so I can understand if you have that problem, I just think its important try and do what you are able to at least.

I mean no offense but if you just haven't done any of that because you don't want to.......that would be a bit on the lazy side, but if you have psychological or physical issues getting in the way then people should probably try to be more understanding. But then they have to be aware that your struggling or they'll hold you to the same expectations to someone without such struggles.

I don't know from what I've heard that movie released about him was not exactly accurate, so I am not sure how much exploitation there was....or if it was just over-dramatized for the movie.

I'm the same way except I'm not 22, I'm 36, almost 37. I don't work and sit around all day playing video games and my mother doesn't mind. My mother has had people tell her she shouldn't be supporting me and that she should "make" me get a job (as if that would even be possible). Luckily for me she doesn't listen to them and looks down on people that would boot their own kid out on the street.

I do sometimes do some cleaning around the house. Not because my mother tells me too, she is pretty lax about cleaning herself. I just decide to do it myself when I feel like it.

I think my mother is glad to have me living here. If I wasn't here she would be living by herself.

I never saw the movie, and I don't know the man personally, so I don't know. Never the less, that image is out there. I think movies and television have more influence over our opinions than they should. That people learn most of their history from popular entertainment particularly bothers me, but that is another topic.

So it's Aspies who are exploitative and take advantage of others instead of NTs?

Question: In the bizarro universe in which you apparently live, do cats bark and dogs meow?

The few times that I've heard this, the statement was about how autistic people supposedly "demand" that everyone else works very hard to avoid "bothering" them (avoid causing overloads or that everybody else supposedly is expected to ignore if they're accidentally insulted by an autistic person due to their social deficits) while at the same time the autistic person supposedly doesn't work nearly as hard to not be "a burden" on everyone else.

When I hear that, in my mind the words often translate to:

Autistic people demand all kinds of stuff because autism (AS in particular) is a synonym for being lazy and selfish.

Autistic people who talk a little or type (that seems to be an issue too often) don't have a super serious lifelong pervasive developmental disorder but obviously, they're just overly sensitive and desperately need to grow up.

They're are childish and don't know "reality" for being such a burden on people.

I can't stand how that kind of ignorant nonsense makes it hard for all those parents who work(ed) hard and who happen to have an autistic child who talks or types.