Social liberty

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After thinking about it, I came to the idea that there are basically 3 liberties :
- physical liberty : if you are not physically attached
- inner liberty : if you can think what you want, that you are not too much conditionned to think a certain way
- social liberty : that you can do what you want, have the image you want, to the extent that it is seen or known by others, or that it has a social meaning. It can be summed up by the word "behavior".

I have a big trouble with social liberty, I feel that I don't have any, because whatever I do, I am entangled with other people.

In fact, I am quiet when there is no issue of social liberty, for example, if I am alone with a computer, or playing with a rubik's cube. When I get out of my focus, and that I come back to some social world, I start to feel bad.

Do you feel the same ?

Sort of. I definately feel like I should have (and I think I do) a right not to be touched - in fact, a right to a personal zone of space extending around me.

The "inner liberty" most absolutely.

The "social liberty", no. Well yes but I have an entirely different conceptualization of it. I feel like I should have a right to be free from behaviour. It seems like a zoo out there, people seem like monkeys flinging feces and dogs humping legs and all the rest of it - and if I was the social dictator, there would be none of it in public, it would only be allowed behind closed doors, with exceptions made for those prone to involuntary behaviours. People would socialize logically.

Yeah so that's what I am talking about. You have a hard time accepting social liberty of other people and of making other people accept your social liberty.

I think that we should have the right to not be pitied for not socializing, when it makes some aspies happy to not socialize.

Yes. Or to be more exact: I don't have trouble with their social liberty, but with what they do with it. I strongly believe in not interfering - and not being interfered with.

I guess non-interference is at the whole root of how I see the social liberties. Some behaviours feel like interference, no different than someone physically touching me.

Exactly.

You see, in fact, the whole concept of non-interference does not work, because we influence each other. That's exactly my point. Like you I would like this kind of social liberty, but it just does not work like that. Somehow we can take refuge in some activity, but it's just a way of not looking at this phenomenon.

Problem is, it's more complex than a rubik's cube.

I agree with everything you have said there.

So question is, is there a gentle way to solve this "social liberty" issue ?

Yes, it's tiring to have to justify it.