Any predictions for when there will be a cure for aspergers?

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07 May 2012, 12:56 am

I am very hopeful in this generation for huge advancements in science, and medicine. Having said that i have read a lot about how many breakthroughs there have been in treating aspergers. It's only been diagnosed for about 70 years now and yet i have gone from having i guess "moderate" aspergers to having my friends, parents and even fiance all still very shocked that i have it. There are a lot of treatments nowadays and as you have seen from the last 100 years society has taken leaps and bounds in technology, science and medicine. Having said that i have seen a lot of people say it'll take decades and maybe centuries for there to be a cure? really with all the leaps and bounds the world has made will it be that long until there is a cure? i don't think so i am hopeful there will be one in maybe like 30 years or so that may seem ridiculous but i really do think it will be happen? does anyone else think that? any predictions?



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07 May 2012, 1:00 am

As I've stated many times there will be a pre-natal cure within our lifetime a post-birth one is highly unlikely for quite along time, however I will NEVER EVER IN A MILLION f*****g YEARS condone a cure for Aspergers even if it's pre-natal or post-birth.



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07 May 2012, 1:02 am

Just so we're on the clear (again), what is a cure and what is it supposed to fix?


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07 May 2012, 1:09 am

Silvervarg wrote:
Just so we're on the clear (again), what is a cure and what is it supposed to fix?


well let's see so many things. Being more empathetic and being able to deeply feel emotions like normal NT's. Having good social skills and understanding social cues and body language. Bascially this is a world where the majority of people are NT whether you like it or not. Even if you grouped together as aspies you aren't necessarily going to like each other. In fact i've found it harder to like others with aspergers and just find some semi tolerant NT's. Even the semi tolerant NT's though are moving on with their life while people with aspergers i'd say are slower. Maybe i sound pessimistic about this but i don't care having asperger's sucks i really don't understand how anyone could like it. Last time i checked Love and acceptance is a part of the social pyramid, without it, it is very hard to be happy. Having aspergers makes it ridiculously hard to have that much love or acceptance. So tell me why do some of you apsies like being socially ridiculed and helpless to do anything about it?



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07 May 2012, 1:19 am

How exactly do you cure someones brain structure? My prediction is that the first 'cure' we'll see is early pre-natal detection followed by abortion.



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07 May 2012, 1:27 am

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How exactly do you cure someones brain structure? My prediction is that the first 'cure' we'll see is early pre-natal detection followed by abortion.

ADHD has something to do with the brain right? and depression definitely does and they have cures for that or treatments close enough to cures i'm sure in a decade or two you will be suprised how much technology will offer



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07 May 2012, 1:32 am

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07 May 2012, 1:38 am

jcohen wrote:
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How exactly do you cure someones brain structure? My prediction is that the first 'cure' we'll see is early pre-natal detection followed by abortion.

ADHD has something to do with the brain right? and depression definitely does and they have cures for that or treatments close enough to cures i'm sure in a decade or two you will be suprised how much technology will offer


"Something to do with the brain" and the physical structure of white/grey matter are worlds apart. A concussion is something to do with the brain. Do you see AS and a concussion as equal? Also, the treatments for ADHD are not close to cures.



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07 May 2012, 1:46 am

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How exactly do you cure someones brain structure? My prediction is that the first 'cure' we'll see is early pre-natal detection followed by abortion.

ADHD has something to do with the brain right? and depression definitely does and they have cures for that or treatments close enough to cures i'm sure in a decade or two you will be suprised how much technology will offer


"Something to do with the brain" and the physical structure of white/grey matter are worlds apart. A concussion is something to do with the brain. Do you see AS and a concussion as equal? Also, the treatments for ADHD are not close to cures.


ya i see what you mean.. i just really would like a cure for this it's ridiculous to have to live life with AS it really sucks i think i'm just hoping there will be one and seeing if anyone had any idea of when it would maybe happen?



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07 May 2012, 1:46 am

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It's only been diagnosed for about 70 years now

Autism has, not Asperger's. Unless the 90s were a really long time ago and I'm older than I think I am.

I will say though that the current research has found an over packing of cells (like a traffic jam) in a part of the brain (I think prefrontal cortex) may be a cause of autism and a new pill they are creating may unblock that motorway and diminish autistic symptoms.
I'm supposed to be researching this but haven't so I don't have all the details.

Also, the focus is on autism with real disabilities, not the higher functioning form. And I don't care if people with such a form of autism don't want to be cured. I'm just stating the facts.

And as I'm writing a book to get people to understand what it's like to have autism, whilst entertaining them with an on the edge of your seat sci-fi saga, I think I'll delay being cured.

And ADHD meds are not that reliable. You don't just take it and you no longer have ADHD issues. You have a few more chemicals for motivation and focus - but you must decide what you will focus on. However, they do make me more bearable to be around.


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07 May 2012, 1:55 am

I except it to come several years after the cure for depression, bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, etc., which are all better understood, yet don't have a cure, only very imperfect medication.

Anyway, I don't hope there will ever be one.



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07 May 2012, 2:07 am

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It's only been diagnosed for about 70 years now

Autism has, not Asperger's. Unless the 90s were a really long time ago and I'm older than I think I am.

I will say though that the current research has found an over packing of cells (like a traffic jam) in a part of the brain (I think prefrontal cortex) may be a cause of autism and a new pill they are creating may unblock that motorway and diminish autistic symptoms.
I'm supposed to be researching this but haven't so I don't have all the details.

Also, the focus is on autism with real disabilities, not the higher functioning form. And I don't care if people with such a form of autism don't want to be cured. I'm just stating the facts.

And as I'm writing a book to get people to understand what it's like to have autism, whilst entertaining them with an on the edge of your seat sci-fi saga, I think I'll delay being cured.

And ADHD meds are not that reliable. You don't just take it and you no longer have ADHD issues. You have a few more chemicals for motivation and focus - but you must decide what you will focus on. However, they do make me more bearable to be around.


aspergers is a form of autism so by diminishing autism you would diminish aspergers right?



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07 May 2012, 2:27 am

jcohen wrote:
Silvervarg wrote:
Just so we're on the clear (again), what is a cure and what is it supposed to fix?


well let's see so many things. Being more empathetic and being able to deeply feel emotions like normal NT's. Having good social skills and understanding social cues and body language. Bascially this is a world where the majority of people are NT whether you like it or not. Even if you grouped together as aspies you aren't necessarily going to like each other. In fact i've found it harder to like others with aspergers and just find some semi tolerant NT's. Even the semi tolerant NT's though are moving on with their life while people with aspergers i'd say are slower. Maybe i sound pessimistic about this but i don't care having asperger's sucks i really don't understand how anyone could like it. Last time i checked Love and acceptance is a part of the social pyramid, without it, it is very hard to be happy. Having aspergers makes it ridiculously hard to have that much love or acceptance. So tell me why do some of you apsies like being socially ridiculed and helpless to do anything about it?


Better social skills would be nice, I admit. But guess what? Believe it or not, for people on the higher end of the autism spectrum, those can usually be learned with training and practice, without having to actually alter a person's entire brain chemistry. And I think that trope about Aspies lacking empathy is inaccurate-- I think we all have the capacity for it, but we just don't always know how to articulate it.

Whenever anybody wonders how I could possibly feel so at peace with being an Aspie, or how I could ever conceivably see it as a gift rather than a curse, I talk about my artwork, and my writing, and how I see beauty in banal things all around me that others take for granted. I realize that not all Aspies are artistically inclined, but that's not really my point. The point is, as much as humanity proclaims the wonders of conformity and similarity, if we were all the same, our society would be in so much more trouble than we already are. It's practically a Darwinian cardinal rule-- diversity is desirable to enable a species to flourish. Our world needs people with creativity and logic and mathematical abilities and lateral thinking skills and intense interests. More often than not, there is some sort of idiosyncratic compensation for that social isolation we feel-- something at which we excel over the norm, whether we realize it or not. Those eccentric "obsessions" we usually have can very often be channeled toward very productive ends, if only they are nurtured rather than discouraged.

I won't lie-- sometimes I get terribly lonely, and I wish my ability to socialize came with less expenditure of energy. But as I already said, it's something that can be smoothed down with practice-- and I wouldn't dream of sacrificing my weirdness just for the sake of being one of the herd. My weirdness is what gives me my strength. And as for love and acceptance, well-- I realize it can be difficult depending on one's circumstances, but I think the key is finding people who love and accept in spite of and because of the weirdness. They do exist, trust me.


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07 May 2012, 3:52 am

jcohen wrote:
pensieve wrote:
jcohen wrote:
It's only been diagnosed for about 70 years now

Autism has, not Asperger's. Unless the 90s were a really long time ago and I'm older than I think I am.

I will say though that the current research has found an over packing of cells (like a traffic jam) in a part of the brain (I think prefrontal cortex) may be a cause of autism and a new pill they are creating may unblock that motorway and diminish autistic symptoms.
I'm supposed to be researching this but haven't so I don't have all the details.

Also, the focus is on autism with real disabilities, not the higher functioning form. And I don't care if people with such a form of autism don't want to be cured. I'm just stating the facts.

And as I'm writing a book to get people to understand what it's like to have autism, whilst entertaining them with an on the edge of your seat sci-fi saga, I think I'll delay being cured.

And ADHD meds are not that reliable. You don't just take it and you no longer have ADHD issues. You have a few more chemicals for motivation and focus - but you must decide what you will focus on. However, they do make me more bearable to be around.


aspergers is a form of autism so by diminishing autism you would diminish aspergers right?


The difference is there would be a choice. I assume you would take a cure in whatever shape or form, but others may not.


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07 May 2012, 5:40 am

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How exactly do you cure someones brain structure? My prediction is that the first 'cure' we'll see is early pre-natal detection followed by abortion.


This. I cannot think of anything that can be 'cured' during pregnancy. Certainly when it comes to IVF some conditions with a strong genetic feature can be prevented (such as Huntington's Disease) where affected embryos are discarded and perhaps in the future that will be a possibility for autism. But prenatal screening, similar to the one offered for Down Syndrome would simply lead to parents terminating pregnancies.

Prenatal screening does not necessarily mean that ASDs will disappear - this has not been the case for Down Syndrome, for example.

I think we are a considerable distance away from a 'cure' and it is possible that there will never be one, at least not in our lifetimes. In the meantime I think we should try and make the best of things as they are. I know that sounds trite, but to me it seems a better option than waiting in misery for someone to come along and 'cure' us.



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07 May 2012, 6:12 am

When you can go to a neuro-surgeon and order a new personality of your choice based upon he/she cutting into your brain, then we will have a "cure" ;)

The alternative is drugs that gives you a certain personality based upon heavy altering the balance of hormones and neuro-chemicals.

If this technology becomes available it will be a dream come true for any controlling government or agency. Let's hope it does not.