I am diagnosed, but I don't really think I have asperger's.

Page 1 of 2 [ 25 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

59575153
Emu Egg
Emu Egg

User avatar

Joined: 9 Jan 2012
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 3

27 May 2012, 5:08 am

Just as the title describes, I do not think I have asperger's.

I was initially diagnosed at the behest of my mother and the school district at the age of 13. I do not blame them--they wanted a reason, a label, for my behavior; behavior that included a nearly complete internal, and external isolation. I didn't speak, and I absorbed myself nearly completely in books, as well as digital media. To be honest, although I wanted to, I wasn't really living on the same planet as them. Years of what I had realized was social rejection had hardened me.

I am now 22, and am starting my junior year of computer science at Washington University in Seattle. Since the age of 13, I have been taking advantage of monthly SSI payments as well as the healthcare that comes along with it.

However, as time goes on, I realize that I am not really on the same level as many people who self-label, or are truly diagnosed as 'asperger's.' I still can't really communicate well--my mind is always racing and the words simply don't form in the way in which I intend. I can't read people well, either. I cannot sense body language in the same way others do--it is an entirely conscious, predictive action (not intuitive.) Nevertheless, I digress, I do not seem to resemble the typical asperger's case in terms of personality and behavior.

TL;DR
Basically, I feel guilty receiving SSI payments for a disability I am not certain that I truly have. I also find it difficult to associate myself with others who classify themselves as 'aspies.'

I have also been re-evaluated several times for both SSI, and for asperger's.

I'm sorry that all of this seems so self-centered. I'm also sorry for any errors, it happens when I write about things like this. I just felt that I should post and see what people think. Get outside my own head...

edit 1: as a secondary, people who obsess about being diagnosed kind of strike me as silly.



League_Girl
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Feb 2010
Gender: Female
Posts: 27,256
Location: Pacific Northwest

27 May 2012, 5:28 am

So you don't think you have AS because you can't relate to other aspies?

Whenever you got reevaluated for AS and SSI, did they say you have AS every time?


_________________
Son: Diagnosed w/anxiety and ADHD. Also academic delayed and ASD lv 1.

Daughter: NT, no diagnoses. Possibly OCD. Is very private about herself.


EstherJ
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Apr 2012
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,041
Location: The long-lost library at Alexandria

27 May 2012, 5:34 am

It might help if you go into more specific detail about how you feel you do not correlate with a typical Asperger's diagnosis.



AspieOtaku
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 17 Feb 2012
Age: 42
Gender: Male
Posts: 13,051
Location: San Jose

27 May 2012, 5:47 am

Maybe you have HFA or are an Aspie in denial or are an NT with ADD/ADHD or probably have HAF and AS and in denail who knows you are what you are and who you are. I used to deny my AS and HFA all the time but I learn to accept it in a way we are normal like everyone else just slightly awkward at times but its all good.


_________________
Your Aspie score is 193 of 200
Your neurotypical score is 40 of 200
You are very likely an aspie
No matter where I go I will always be a Gaijin even at home. Like Anime? https://kissanime.to/AnimeList


59575153
Emu Egg
Emu Egg

User avatar

Joined: 9 Jan 2012
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 3

27 May 2012, 5:51 am

EstherJ wrote:
It might help if you go into more specific detail about how you feel you do not correlate with a typical Asperger's diagnosis.

League_Girl wrote:
**So you don't think you have AS because you can't relate to other aspies?

*Whenever you got reevaluated for AS and SSI, did they say you have AS every time?


*Yes. So far as I know. Checks continue to come.

**Yes. That's a part of it.

Observing other people with asperger's makes me feel more than uncomfortable. I feel like I can't empathize or fully understand their actions (although, this is true of most people--those with ASD disorders are more difficult to read than everyone else.) I can't imagine myself in their shoes, making their decisions.

It seems odd, but I feel as if it turns out that I do have some kind of disorder (which seems apparent,) that it isn't AS.

One of the things I have always had described to me as being a part of AS is a want to socialize and communicate, but an inability to do so correctly. I don't know if I lost my want or need through numbing, or if I really don't want it. Either way, I spend the vast majority of my time rather alone (and not lonely (although I am young so, who's to say this wont change.))

There's also a certain kind of childishness that, from my perspective, seems almost omnipresent among those with AS. I will admit that I indulge in (relative) fantasy more than the average Joe, but I seem to be different in terms of maturity in comparison to others with my diagnosis. I'll stress that I am not taking a stance of superiority...although it may seem so. It's just...different.

It may simply be that people are people regardless of their diagnoses. That is, I've just not met a person with AS who was like me. Or that, the people around me are just this particular way. World is a big place, and its impossible to generalize correctly outside of math. :)

Thanks for readin'.



Last edited by 59575153 on 27 May 2012, 5:56 am, edited 1 time in total.

Raziel
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Oct 2011
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,616
Location: Europe

27 May 2012, 5:54 am

Well, it could also fit schizoid personality disorder.


_________________
"I'm astounded by people who want to 'know' the universe when it's hard enough to find your way around Chinatown." - Woody Allen


EstherJ
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 Apr 2012
Age: 33
Gender: Female
Posts: 1,041
Location: The long-lost library at Alexandria

27 May 2012, 6:11 am

Raziel wrote:
Well, it could also fit schizoid personality disorder.


I was just thinking the same thing.
Of course, I also have a hard time relating to anyone, Aspie or not. And I'm an Aspie.But I think it's because I know what we go through to the point that I don't want to bother anyone.

If it bothers me, I don't do it to others, so that means I don't do a LOT of things.
Off topic, sorry.



nessa238
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 1 Jul 2011
Age: 58
Gender: Female
Posts: 3,908
Location: UK

27 May 2012, 7:12 am

I think in terms of Asperger-like behaviour traits the world is divided into people who feel more at ease with a diagnosis and that they fit a set dignostic criteria and others, like myself, who while having received a diagnosis (imposed, not sought) and being able to acknowledge that certain of my behaviour traits are similar to the Aspergers diagnosis, feel it is too restrictive an explanation for 'how I am'. Aspergers can't be tested for medically so there's no way of 'proving' it exists in one person as opposed to another - it's just a construct placed on certain types of human behaviour.



MrJosh
Snowy Owl
Snowy Owl

User avatar

Joined: 20 Nov 2011
Age: 35
Gender: Male
Posts: 165
Location: UK

27 May 2012, 7:17 am

If your continuing to receive disability benefits, even after being reassessed, then it sounds like you must have some symptoms which are causing you difficulty in you day to day life?

However, if you want to know whether you definitely have AS (or another condition) then perhaps you should go to your doctor and seek advice about how to get reassessed.

Then explain the reasons as to why you think it may not be AS at all. They might either find that it is indeed something else, or, if they too believe it is AS they could explain why. :)



59575153
Emu Egg
Emu Egg

User avatar

Joined: 9 Jan 2012
Age: 34
Gender: Male
Posts: 3

27 May 2012, 7:30 am

nessa238 wrote:
I think in terms of Asperger-like behaviour traits the world is divided into people who feel more at ease with a diagnosis and that they fit a set dignostic criteria and others, like myself, who while having received a diagnosis (imposed, not sought) and being able to acknowledge that certain of my behaviour traits are similar to the Aspergers diagnosis, feel it is too restrictive an explanation for 'how I am'. Aspergers can't be tested for medically so there's no way of 'proving' it exists in one person as opposed to another - it's just a construct placed on certain types of human behaviour.


That's a good point. Thank you.



Blownmind
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 Feb 2012
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 825
Location: Norway

27 May 2012, 8:53 am

59575153 wrote:
It may simply be that people are people regardless of their diagnoses. That is, I've just not met a person with AS who was like me.

I searched google for "when you have met one person with autism, you have met one person with autism" just now, and I got 888 hits. :D


_________________
AQ: 42/50 || SQ: 32/80 || IQ(RPM): 138 || IRI-empathytest(PT/EC/FS/PD): 10(-7)/16(-3)/19(+3)/19(+10) || Alexithymia: 148/185 || Aspie-quiz: AS 133/200, NT 56/200


Sweetleaf
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Jan 2011
Age: 34
Gender: Female
Posts: 34,892
Location: Somewhere in Colorado

27 May 2012, 10:09 am

59575153 wrote:
Just as the title describes, I do not think I have asperger's.

I was initially diagnosed at the behest of my mother and the school district at the age of 13. I do not blame them--they wanted a reason, a label, for my behavior; behavior that included a nearly complete internal, and external isolation. I didn't speak, and I absorbed myself nearly completely in books, as well as digital media. To be honest, although I wanted to, I wasn't really living on the same planet as them. Years of what I had realized was social rejection had hardened me.

I am now 22, and am starting my junior year of computer science at Washington University in Seattle. Since the age of 13, I have been taking advantage of monthly SSI payments as well as the healthcare that comes along with it.

However, as time goes on, I realize that I am not really on the same level as many people who self-label, or are truly diagnosed as 'asperger's.' I still can't really communicate well--my mind is always racing and the words simply don't form in the way in which I intend. I can't read people well, either. I cannot sense body language in the same way others do--it is an entirely conscious, predictive action (not intuitive.) Nevertheless, I digress, I do not seem to resemble the typical asperger's case in terms of personality and behavior.

TL;DR
Basically, I feel guilty receiving SSI payments for a disability I am not certain that I truly have. I also find it difficult to associate myself with others who classify themselves as 'aspies.'

I have also been re-evaluated several times for both SSI, and for asperger's.

I'm sorry that all of this seems so self-centered. I'm also sorry for any errors, it happens when I write about things like this. I just felt that I should post and see what people think. Get outside my own head...

edit 1: as a secondary, people who obsess about being diagnosed kind of strike me as silly.


Well nothing you've said really indicates you don't have it...also I am not sure what a typical aspie is supposed to look like, I mean if you've meant one aspie you've met one aspie not all. I mean what you described sounds like AS issues to me...what typical Aspie behavior do you not resemble?

Also I can see why one might obsess about being diagnosed, don't really know if it's 'silly' I guess for me it would depend on why they are obsessing over it.


_________________
We won't go back.


questor
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 23 Apr 2011
Age: 64
Gender: Female
Posts: 2,696
Location: Twilight Zone

27 May 2012, 10:50 am

From what you describe of yourself, you sound like you may have HFA--High Functioning Autism. Both this and Asperger's Syndrome are part of the Autism spectrum of disorders. HFA and Asperger's have many traits in common. However, HFA usually involves communication and speaking problems. It is not necessary to make a big deal about the difference, though, as these two disorders are closely related, and are easily mistaken for one another.

As for not seeing enough similarity between yourself and other Aspies, there are many different traits that we can each have, and at various levels of intensity. No one has all of the traits, and no two people have the exact same combination of traits/intensity. So, each person on the Autism spectrum will present med/psych wise at least a little differently from every other person on the spectrum. This is the main reason why it took the psych docs such a long time to recognize not only Classic Autism, but the other disorders on the spectrum, too.

So, stop worrying about collecting your SSI benefits under false pretences. Multiple evaluations indicate that you are on the Autism spectrum. Some psych docs don't even distinguish between HFA and Asperger's, as they are very similar, and they are both part of the spectrum, so it's not an issue. You are not collecting under false pretences.

Now have a great life! :D


_________________
If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer.
Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured, or far away.--Henry David Thoreau


Raziel
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Oct 2011
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,616
Location: Europe

27 May 2012, 11:16 am

Well there are many diagnoses in this area who can look very similar:
- Asperger's-Syndrom
- HFA
- PDD-NOS
- McDD
- schizoid personality disoder
- schizotypal personality disorder
etc.

Just a good Psychiatrist who knows about the similarities and differences in this area can tell this exactly.


_________________
"I'm astounded by people who want to 'know' the universe when it's hard enough to find your way around Chinatown." - Woody Allen


edgewaters
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 16 Aug 2006
Age: 52
Gender: Male
Posts: 2,427
Location: Ontario

27 May 2012, 11:34 am

59575153 wrote:
Just as the title describes, I do not think I have asperger's.


You don't have to accept the label. Or you can partially accept it if you're struggling and you need assistance, without letting it become your identity. If you want you can think of it as just a vehicle for assistance, and not an identity. It was really just created to solve problems for people - you can limit it to that if you want. Your identity is more than a list of symptoms, you're a unique individual. AS is a wide net that they cast to catch and deal with problems, not a template for a person's identity (although I've found it useful in relating to others).

Quote:
behavior that included a nearly complete internal, and external isolation. I didn't speak, and I absorbed myself nearly completely in books, as well as digital media. To be honest, although I wanted to, I wasn't really living on the same planet as them. Years of what I had realized was social rejection had hardened me.


Whether it's AS or not I think I would classify that as a problem, that could use a solution or at least an adaptative strategy.

Quote:
as time goes on, I realize that I am not really on the same level as many people who self-label, or are truly diagnosed as 'asperger's.' I still can't really communicate well--my mind is always racing and the words simply don't form in the way in which I intend. I can't read people well, either. I cannot sense body language in the same way others do--it is an entirely conscious, predictive action (not intuitive.) Nevertheless, I digress, I do not seem to resemble the typical asperger's case in terms of personality and behavior.


Actually that all sounds like you do have some sort of spectrum disorder, maybe not AS though.

Quote:
Basically, I feel guilty receiving SSI payments for a disability I am not certain that I truly have.


You're going to school, doing something with yourself, making an effort to become someone who can contribute to society. Society wants to invest in you to help you do that. If it helps you do that, why do you feel guilty about it? What happens if you get no help at all? Are you sure you wouldn't end up being a long-term burden on the system, or less of a contributer to society than you could otherwise be? Society has decided that it's better to support people while they still have potential of becoming valuable human capital, even if some of those investments go sour, than to have to haemmorhage human capital and be burdened with the much greater costs associated with that. Especially with spectrum disorders, society has at least partially realized there are huge gains to be recovered from the potential that is there, but it takes assistance/investment to make them come to fruition. There's no reason to feel guilty.



Blownmind
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 18 Feb 2012
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Posts: 825
Location: Norway

27 May 2012, 11:55 am

Raziel wrote:
Well there are many diagnoses in this area who can look very similar:
- Asperger's-Syndrom
- HFA
- PDD-NOS
- McDD
- schizoid personality disoder
- schizotypal personality disorder
etc.

Just a good Psychiatrist who knows about the similarities and differences in this area can tell this exactly.

See this thread/post for more info; http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp4415970 ... t=#4415970


_________________
AQ: 42/50 || SQ: 32/80 || IQ(RPM): 138 || IRI-empathytest(PT/EC/FS/PD): 10(-7)/16(-3)/19(+3)/19(+10) || Alexithymia: 148/185 || Aspie-quiz: AS 133/200, NT 56/200