How do you know for sure it's Asperger/Autism. Any clues?

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29 May 2012, 7:50 am

well i think i fit in very well in the diagnosis. but i dont got special intressts and i dont do repetive things or any super memory or good at math. but im pretty basic in my doing.
I got asperger diagnosis, a simple one.

i got depression and eating disorder (HAD) . well it says if u got asperger u get those. WELL

tell me how do you know for certain its not something else like some KIND OF DISORDER of some other kind. there are many diffrent diagnosis u can get. only because u mimick asperger symptoms dosent mean u got asperger.


well i think im very odd. but maybe its something else not asperger.

QUESTION = HOW DO YOU KNOW U GOT ASPERGER FOR SURE=?



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29 May 2012, 7:54 am

You don't. You only have evidence that points to whether you have it or not.



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29 May 2012, 8:00 am

If you've got a professional diagnosis, then that's as close as your really going to get, to knowing that you have it.

You don't need to have every symptom either - I don't know if everyone with Aspergers (or everyone on the spectrum) has a 'special interest', then again, perhaps you do but you don't realise it? Eitherway, we're all different...

It's unfortunate that they can't just take a blood test or something to check - although I've heard that in the future they might be able to use CT scans to support diagnosis.



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29 May 2012, 8:04 am

well i did have a diagnosis professionally. but special intresst and such is a specific thing. i don t think if u dont got that u probably dont got asperger.

well can you list all diagnosis you can have. asepger ,depression , etc. can you give me a list .



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29 May 2012, 10:02 am

cursedforever wrote:
well can you list all diagnosis you can have. asepger ,depression , etc. can you give me a list .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_me ... SM_and_ICD


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29 May 2012, 10:20 am

Pretty easy.

It's defined by a list of symptoms: If you have them, then you have it.



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29 May 2012, 10:45 am

cursedforever wrote:
i got depression and eating disorder (HAD) . well it says if u got asperger u get those. WELL


Not always. I've got Autism and have had depression, same with a friend of mine. (I understand hers is related to her cancer and the treatment she received) I know at least two people who have Aspergers who don't have (or have never had) depression.



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29 May 2012, 1:53 pm

One never really "knows".
Everything in the psycho-emotional world is just a process of finding\learning which answers (diagnoses) are a better fit for the symptoms.
As an individual and\or humanity learns more, answers may arise that fit better...

But the core name doesn't really matter.
It's just a communication device so that those who know, and those who have, and those who succeed, and those who fail, can learn from us and we from them. It's just the name of the topic so we don't have to randomly search of all human knowledge for these answers. It it just puts searchers 'on the same page' (if you don't mind 'a figure of speech').

Which name is used doesn't really matter, because there's no cure. - There's not even a cure for the common cold.
We (humanity) cant really cure* much. We can only try to manage the symptoms, to mitigate the damage they do to us.
If we don't have some of the symptoms then Yay! Less to manage, and just maybe a better chance to succeed on the others.

RE more than one diagnosis...
Comorbidity (or co-morbid, morbid meaning body) (Comorbidity - from Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)
-to indicate a medical condition existing simultaneously but independently with another condition in a patient.
Or in mental health:
-comorbidity does not necessarily imply the presence of multiple diseases, but instead can reflect our current inability to supply a single diagnosis that accounts for all symptoms.

Which means a person who is blind can still get a cold or the flu.
They can still cut themselves shaving or break an arm.
Or get depressed.

The problems caused by ASD can initiate issues that look like other diagnoses.
It can cause social phobia, which can cause depression, which can cause unusual eating behaviors, which can cause changes in physical energy levels which look similar to a sleep disorder. But the root cause may be lower brain neurological bandwidth to one or more of any area of social processing.
BUT thyroid issues can cause unusual eating behaviors & etc too.
And on and on. It's a process of elimination in favor of answers that fit the big picture better.
Sometimes, it's nothing more than deciding what is the cause, by what solution finally affected a symptom.

And so we're back to square one: mitigating the symptoms.


*We are awesome at fixing things though, unfortunately it usually has to 'break', first.


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29 May 2012, 2:52 pm

I'd say proof is in professional diagnosis... if you suspect it, you can get diagnosed if you wish. For me I would never be satisfied if I didn't get it formally diagnosed (and second opinion) because I would be left wondering...

Up to you. What can you live with? :)



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29 May 2012, 3:10 pm

If you don't feel the diagnosis is right, maybe seek a second opinion. There's also the thought of ADHD which comes to my mind and can also have comorbids of depression and eating disorders. A lot of people can be misdiagnosed with ASD when they have ADHD. That's something to look into as well, but also keep in mind you can have both ADHD and ASD.


Not all of us are a genius, good at math, or have excellent memories, though. That's just a stereotype.



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29 May 2012, 3:49 pm

Wow sorry that last post (mine) sounded so over analytical.

By much of what I’ve read most ASD’s with repetitive … thingys… are mostly unaware that they do it and usually say they were surprised when someone pointed it out to them.

And it can be anything:
I can have repetitive thought, daydream, or even a song in my head, finger tapping (esp my ring on metal). I may fiddle w/my watch actually taking it off, lifting and tapping my computer mouse, putting things in ‘order’, when I wore glasses –lifting them by wiggling my nose, sometimes I just hold my fingers oddly but not wiggle them.

It can be at anytime:
If I get person-nervous I might stare at some low minor floor detail, only standing or on a bus do I thumb wiggle, it might even be teeth clenching while asleep.

It may be undetectable:
I waggle my tongue sometimes when focusing – but I only started that after I got my tongue piercing, I fiddle with my tongue on my teeth – but only when I have my tongue stud in, I wiggle my toes inside my shoes, I flex/clench my jaw, I texture stroke my 501’s (only when my hand is in an acceptably normal place), or repetition might happen while no one's around –like writing, reading, internetting.

It may look voluntary (‘normal’):
I foot wiggle when I’m bored, over-petting another’s arm, drawing, I verbally repeat myself too much, sometimes I do something only for a moment or two and then again in a bit which may make it seem non-repetitive and unrelated

It may only happen in certain places:
While driving or riding or flying or walking, while grocery shopping, while in bed, or the shower, or watching tv, or in a movie theater.

It can be perceptual:
No one else would even know, such as focusing on a visual or a sound detail.

It may even be so highly complex that no one notices the repetition, which may involve all of these aspects in some cyclical way.

And for me it’s usually something done kinda automatically, at best, absentmindedly.

So how are you supposed to discover it yourself? Only with great difficulty. A year ago I knew none of these things about myself, apparently nobody else noticed them either, or they were too polite/shy to mention.
And I’ve been old enough to vote for a very long time now.



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People w/ASD may have memory issues, meaning they may also have memory deficits instead of a Super Memory. Or they may have deficits in some types of memory and normal and/or Super in other types.

I have a heinously poor memory but in some of the more abstract memory areas it’s very good.



Good At Math
ASD can bestow great gifts, but not always. I’m abysmal at math but fantastic at geometry which some ppl consider to be in the math category.


Or you might just not have these three symptoms...


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