Vaccines

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This might be a stupid question about the vaccine debate, but....I've heard that there are people from every culture who have autism. If that is the case, and not all cultures vaccinate children, then how can anyone claim that vaccines "cause" autism?

Stop applying logic to the argument

One way it could is if autism has multiple potential causes of which vaccination is only one. So those other cultures would still have autism from other causes than vaccination.

Not saying it is caused by vaccines, just answering the question.

But vaccinations do NOT, nor have EVER, caused autism. So please stop bringing it up. It's not a real thing.

certain genotypes are severely impacted by vaccines
the internet is full of stories from parents of kids, who went downhill after vaccination
it can be the straw that breaks the camels back...

some people die from vaccination
drug injury is a fact
so is vaccination injury

vaccination's may still acerbate autisms, maternal nutrition may also, as could fathers lifestyle and subsequent sperm quality

The sins of the father are visited upon the son
Harm your already deteriorating DNA
And you kids could have
Autism

The Internet is also full of stories about how the moon landings were fake, and that Elvis is still alive.

No one knows what causes autism. Vaccines, however, do not.

Immunosuppression may be a mitigating factor in autism, but vaccinations are not.

Stick with science, please.

Because they are trying to figure out some "reason" for the autism and so they try to connect it to any event available to try to explain it. Since autism shows up in children and children account for many vaccinations, then it must be the case (in their minds) that vaccines are the cause.

We see lots of crackpot conjectures on here (erroneously termed theories by those trying to push those conjectures) to explain autism by something else.

Discussion of this topic is necessary, given how the recent congressional hearings on autism went, with "vaccinations cause autism" being given a lot of credence by both republican and democrat representatives, and also taking up a lot of time in terms of speakers.

OP: you sound like a serious poster. The vaccine theory was found to be based on fraudulent research, and the doctor that did the study has since lost his medical license over it.

That can mean two entirely different things.....
my best doctor ever was a guy who was struck of the medical registra.... for speaking against pesticides
vaccines and pesticides are not contributing according to stick to science

Don't forget the element of fear.

When people are afraid of something (e.g. "My child could become an autist?!?"), they stop thinking rationally. In such cases they could see a threat in anything - even in something that has historically saved millions of human lives (vaccines) and exterminated deadly diseases (e.g. smallpox).

Also, in many cases the signs of autism become too obvious to ignore at about the same time as the child is given an MMR vaccine.
Those two things have no connection to each other, but parents may connect them anyway.

Autism was also documented before vaccines were even known. But, that doesn't preclude vaccines from being one of the things that cause autism. How the question is asked is important.

Are vaccines THE cause of autism? No.

Are vaccines A cause of autism? Maybe.

*edit* One side note. If vaccines were found to cause autism can you imagine the lawsuits in the US alone?

I do not understand why this is so touchy a subject, and agree with rascal that vaccines may be a cause. My thinking goes like this:

Could a virus cause autism? Hmm, yes I think so. So what about a vaccine? Well, I suppose I must concede that, if believing a virus may cause autism.

I disagree.

Autism is not an illness in the classic sense of the word - it's more like being born with a different-working brain than other people.

If we compare the brain to a computer, Autists have a different operating system, not a virus.

Thanks everyone, I feel like I've come to understand this whole debate a lot better. I thought that some people believed that vaccines were the only cause of autism. I now see that they believe that there are other causes as well.