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08 Jun 2012, 12:33 pm

Hello,

for psychological reasons that are way too complicated to explain here, I need to increase anxiety/stress in myself and don't know how. To differentiate what I am talking about further: Fear could be caretorised into fear that has a direct cause (e.g. a lion chasing you, fear of electroshocks, etc.) and some unspecific base-anxiety without direct cause that may manifest in exaggeated fear of otherwise meaningless things. I need some way to cause the latter. I cannot take any drugs because of past drug addiction (including medication and legal drugs, but maybe not some types of supplements).

Please don't ridicule this thread or evade the subject by suggesting that I need mental help or that fear is wrong or what not. I ask here because many of you may have worse anxiety problems than I had and therefore may have become more consciously aware of the specific causes of their anxiety.


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08 Jun 2012, 12:42 pm

You're looking to cause anxiety without a direct cause?



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08 Jun 2012, 12:47 pm

You want constant, undirected anxiety? Multiple threats to your well-being (physical, mental, emotional) with low to moderate likelihood would do that to you, I don't know why you would want that, though... Watch tons of nightmare fuel late at night, maybe? :/

Although from what you've talked about with drug addiction, I am very curious about the why of the matter, and I'm certain others will be, too.



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08 Jun 2012, 2:37 pm

Find something or someone that you truly, utterly, deeply care about. Think of all the ways that the subject could be damage, lost, killed, defected, or otherwise negatively impacted. Vola--instant anxiety!
If this is successful, then I apologize for any discomfort it may bring.

Perhaps what you really need, though, is more energy, excitement, or motivation. Those things seem very much like anxiety in terms of expression and feeling, but they are of different origins. Energy stems from a healthy body and a healthy mind--eat well (fruits, veggies, ect.), exercise, meditate, and enjoy life. Excitement comes from the anticipation of something positive or the accomplishment of something grand. Motivation is similar to excitement; its an inspiration that can drive you to accomplish. Think of all the wonderful things that you could become. Think of all of the spectacular things that you are capable of doing. Find something to inspire you to become the best that you can possibly be. Perhaps this can give you the "feeling" that you believe that anxiety can provide for you.



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08 Jun 2012, 3:04 pm

Take a situation that caused intense fear and helplessness, then expose yourself to the feeling by remembering it in detail repeatedly.

I'm fairly confident that your reasoning behind wanting more fear is flawed though.



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08 Jun 2012, 3:49 pm

I cannot imagine why, however everyone is different and your reasons are therefore your own. Unfortunately, I have no useful advice beyond those already suggested, but if I could give you some of mine I would. All I can say is I hope you find what you are looking for and when you do that it suits your needs.

Good luck! :D


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08 Jun 2012, 4:09 pm

Sneak around with the wife of a mobster.

Yep, that would probably do it right there.

Or possibly a stripper that's got a one percenter ole man.

Either way, danger is all around.


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08 Jun 2012, 4:56 pm

I don't really understand what you mean here. To me, the kind of anxiety you are talking about builds upon itself and can become physically and mentally debilitating, as it has done with me. That coupled with depression is a total nightmare. You must mean something else, but I am not sure what.



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08 Jun 2012, 9:41 pm

If you want to increase your stress level, then you can do so by procrastinating constantly and leaving eberrything that you have to do to the last minute or hour or day. Then, you will feel lots of lots of stress as you stress out to do the things that you have to do, but I don't know if this is the kind of stress that you are looking for.



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09 Jun 2012, 2:17 am

C0MPAQ wrote:
[...] for psychological reasons that are way too complicated to explain here, I need to increase anxiety/stress in myself and don't know how.


Get a job at Wal-mart.

Problem solved.

Er, started.


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09 Jun 2012, 2:39 am

OP there is no reason to cause yourself anxiety, it degrades functionality. Perhaps you feel unmotivated and think anxiety will help, it may sometimes help in the short-term but long-term it will debilitate you even further and degrade your ability to self-motivate severely. Healthy organisms are not meant to have enduring anxiety or anxiety at rest, it is evolved to a very brief response to specific stimulus; the mind and body take a toll when it is prolonged.



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09 Jun 2012, 3:04 am

I'm sorry but I don't get it. Why would you want more anxiety? Anxiety is hell. I live with it pretty much every day and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

Anyway, I have no advice on how to get more anxious. For me it's just there. Someone mentioned to procrastinate. Maybe you could try that if you really want to get more anxious. It'd probably make you more stressed.



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09 Jun 2012, 12:16 pm

btbnnyr wrote:
eberrything


Why?
Why???



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09 Jun 2012, 2:39 pm

Thank you for the replies. There doesn't seem to be much to do. I remembered yesterday that I get a slight anxiety increase by eating quite a few ginko-ginseng supplements, but it doesn't seem to do much now.

The reason I want more anxiety is very simple: I cannot function properly without it. All my life I have lived with so much anxiety that I became adapted to it and it became an integral part of how I function. It goes so deep that it cannot just be undone by becoming accustomed to a life without it over month or years. But recently my life became like that.
The meachanisms are such that if I am not exposed to intense stress through anxiety, my mind mostly shuts down to recover until I am exposed to stress again. It will then tune up to an appropriate level in order to 'defend' against the source of the stress. If the source is more or less unavoidable and all-present, I am left with a choice how to do it. I need to have that choice again. Currently I am stuck in the 'recovery phase' and it will continue for years and get me depressive, unemployed and addictive meanwhile if I cannot think of something.
So you see, while in most people anxiety would degrade functionality, it does the opposite in me. It is just a deeper form of mental adaption. There doesn't seem to be a foreseeable limit to it. I cannot change that I function that way and it will not change in any foreseeable time with no kind of therapy/rethinking/life-changes or similar. I tried normal emotional responses but they don't work properly in me. If there were a controlable way to increase anxiety for me, it would get me out of an otherwise unhealthy state where I just fear and care about nothing emotionally.

Yes, it is not normal to function that way, but I hope you can realise like I do that life-long conditioning and adaption cannot just be undone in people. This kind of psychological imprinting is quasi permanent.
Regarding addiction: I am diagnosed with polytoxicomania and went through a lot of extreme GHB withdrawals in which I experienced most intense short-lived (mostly for 2-3 days) psychotic anxiety. That kind of anxiety is different from normal anxiety mostly because not only the emotion is irrational, your rationale is also irrational which causes both to even further increase each other without limit. I never had worse anxiety in my life and I believe that those withdrawals contributed a lot to my ability to cope with any non drug induced level of anxiety.

I hope that answers your questions.


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11 Jun 2012, 2:07 pm

So, I found another ginkgo-only supplement and that one doesn't as much cause bowel cramps if overdosed. I am also smoking a different brand of tobacco which I know to slightly cause anxiety. I am smoking a package tobacco a day and eat 5 times the normal ginkgo dosage now. In the past that would have made me very anxious but now it works only somewhat. If I just knew another supplement/nootropic that could possibly do the trick.


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11 Jun 2012, 2:18 pm

Skydiving, Bungee Jumping, any thrill seeker activity that forces you to do things that would cause adrenaline to course through your veins, thatll do it.