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16 Jun 2012, 10:51 am

I'm curious about this... :o

Don't tell me this is a NT-personality only, it simply isn't true I think.



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16 Jun 2012, 11:29 am

I can tell only about people whom I suspect to be on the spectrum, so I don't know anything about those who are officially diagnosed with an ASD. I believe both my father (who has prominent aspie traits) and my ex gf (possibly ASD) have narcissistic traits on top of their ASDs. These traits serve as a protection mechanism for their weak ego and low self-esteem. Somehow they expect too much from themselves, perhaps they were taught into it when they were young. They are much better at hiding their true self than I, but I think it has its price. They do not care when someone is hurt by their bluntness or hurtful remarks, they feel it is perfectly righteous, mostly only self-protection.

I must admit that I also have a tendency to narcissism, but I feel the need to keep it at check, and I find the idea of either deliberately or inadvertently hurting others distressing.


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16 Jun 2012, 11:59 am

same with my biological father, who is 73 has definite narcissistic attitudes, and glaring aspie traits. He is not diagnosed, as far as I know, but I can imagine that if he were diagnosed, he wouldn't tell anyone. He will go so far as to make up total lies about people that reject him. I've heard him make ridiculous claims about his time "being a cop" when his sister, my aunt, assures me that he's never been more than a security guard in his life. He's an alcoholic, goes to a bar every evening, and I have had my suspicions that he might listen to other people bragging, and then incorporate THEIR stories for his own later on. He has had 6 kids, and didn't raise any of them, he doesn't seem to like or want kids, but he has never done anything medically to himself to stop from having them. (ie vasectomy) instead, he just leaves a woman once she gets pregnant and the party is over (so to speak). He is classic, in that absolutely nothing is his fault. Ever.


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16 Jun 2012, 12:01 pm

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16 Jun 2012, 12:03 pm

More than enough on here


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16 Jun 2012, 12:13 pm

I suspect someone I know in real life may have it and lot of people have also said she doesn't have autism because of how she acts and she acts like such a bully. She acts like a narcissistic it though because she can do no wrong and she is always right in her mind. Her actions are never wrong in her mind.


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16 Jun 2012, 12:15 pm

I'm quite the opposite to narcissistic (can't even pronounce it, let alone have it!)


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16 Jun 2012, 12:16 pm

My Dad. He is undiagnosed, and will remain so forever I imagine because he firmly believes that he is perfect and that everyone else is at fault!



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16 Jun 2012, 1:24 pm

Go check out the philosophy/religion sub-forum, or the love and dating sub-forum.

Loads of Aspie narcissists.


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16 Jun 2012, 1:34 pm

I feel I have some tendencies, though I'm not so sure if they're narcissistic or mild bipolar, as I definitely have strong tendencies toward grandiose emotions but not the "calculating" social actions that seem to be associated with it.

I tend to have almost superhuman ambitions--not social but intellectual, and when rejected by a girl, by an employer in one of my special interest fields, etc. then I have a hard time letting go of the feeling that they are to blame and I didn't get what I deserved. But it's more that I'm bitter at the world rather than vilifying certain people, and certainly don't behave disrespectfully just "for the kicks". And, I'm also grandiose about completely non-social things that don't impact others at all.

The only way I get around this is by trying to analyze myself and the situation, which doesn't seem to help any more than blaming the world.



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16 Jun 2012, 4:37 pm

I have not met any Narcissistic people, or if I have, I probably didn't know what they had. I haven't known many Aspies until recently. I know I've got a ton of issues, but I don't really know what any of them are. I do believe I could easily fit a diagnosis for Asperger's but could possibly have something else that is similar.

I think I might have a few Narcissistic traits, not really sure. All I know is, I've got a pretty messed up mind and I need to find out what is going on with it, but have not had the opportunity to find out what disorders I have exactly.



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16 Jun 2012, 8:43 pm

Sometimes I feel like a narcissistic. I feel I am better than other people and strong. But I don't express it. Then I always feel weak and like I am not trying hard enough when I fail. These feelings I have had for almost two years now. But I have heard "Everyone is a little narcissistic."

I even remember as a kid I liked getting attention and I don't mind when people ask me questions about myself. I also envied other people when they be in the center of attention for something and I wished that would be me. I think that came from being an outcast and I wished I could do something good and get praised for it too like other people. But yet when I actually got attention in high school over a jacket I wore, I hated it and it was too overwhelming. I didn't like having that attention. Everyone wanted to wear my jacket it seemed like so I stopped wearing it to school. So I got my wish I had as a child but actually ended up not liking it when it actually happened.


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17 Jun 2012, 12:35 am

Rght here.


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17 Jun 2012, 1:01 am

This is a different perspective on Autism that ahogday posted on a thread that he created.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt200861.html

The site below has a link to an e-book that has some interesting observations and theories on the subject matter.
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http://www.neoteny.org

Chapter 35 Talks about Narcissism

http://www.neoteny.org/wp-content/uploa ... wnload.pdf


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17 Jun 2012, 1:08 am

My uncle. He drives me nutty sometimes because of it.



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24 May 2014, 3:03 am

XFilesGeek wrote:
Go check out the philosophy/religion sub-forum, or the love and dating sub-forum.

Loads of Aspie narcissists.


You are refering to narcisstic traits, right? Aspies in general are too socially impaired to be fullblown narcissists.