"Emotional synaesthesia", anybody more has it?

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15 Jun 2012, 3:28 am

A few days ago, reading 'Born in a blue day', I bumped into a funny statement, something like 'grass is a right word, since it's green, but white, on the contrary, it's not a white word'. And I thought 'Yeap, of course'. And the following thing you say is 'Oh, s**t'.

I was thinking on it. I don't feel that words are linked to colours (Some of them are linked, but just a few of them). For me, mainly, they're emotions. The same happens, for example, with mathemathical concepts. 'White', for example, brings the feeling of something angulate, or square. 'Grass' brings a mixed feeling of peace and continuity. 'Blue' would feel like something done in a professional way, like an emotion of confidence. It's very difficult to explain it with words.

And now the funny thing: I had learning problems for years, for which I had blamed the lack of concentration. I have been struggling with it in so many ways that I have lost track of it. Just frustrating. Right now I have noticed that for years I left emotions aside when I was studying something new (a new language, a musical instrument, retraining, whatever). This last week I tried to include emotions (for example, if I'm studying a language course vocabulary, I don't focus in the word, but in the emotion that is linked to it). Learning problems have disappeared. It's like I can access much easier to memory, as long as I access to it through the linked emotions. Right now, I'm completelly dumbfounded (years trying to focus, to concentrate, to get over it, and it was so f*** simple).

Anybody more had a similar experience?

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15 Jun 2012, 3:39 am

Yes, my emotions are most definitely linked to words. I can't EVER repeat back what I hear, or even have said myself. But I can tell you how I felt and the meaning of those emotions, and put words to that. Unfortunately - almost everything is out of context and plain WRONG.

Our vast data banks we have and use...

Not a good combo this word/emotion linking and databases of experiences... makes for a very bumpy road in life....

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15 Jun 2012, 3:47 am

Greb wrote:

A few days ago, reading 'Born in a blue day', I bumped into a funny statement, something like 'grass is a right word, since it's green, but white, on the contrary, it's not a white word'. And I thought 'Yeap, of course'. And the following thing you say is 'Oh, sh**'.

I was thinking on it. I don't feel that words are linked to colours (Some of them are linked, but just a few of them). For me, mainly, they're emotions. The same happens, for example, with mathemathical concepts. 'White', for example, brings the feeling of something angulate, or square. 'Grass' brings a mixed feeling of peace and continuity. 'Blue' would feel like something done in a professional way, like an emotion of confidence. It's very difficult to explain it with words.

And now the funny thing: I had learning problems for years, for which I had blamed the lack of concentration. I have been struggling with it in so many ways that I have lost track of it. Just frustrating. Right now I have noticed that for years I left emotions aside when I was studying something new (a new language, a musical instrument, retraining, whatever). This last week I tried to include emotions (for example, if I'm studying a language course vocabulary, I don't focus in the word, but in the emotion that is linked to it). Learning problems have disappeared. It's like I can access much easier to memory, as long as I access to it through the linked emotions. Right now, I'm completelly dumbfounded (years trying to focus, to concentrate, to get over it, and it was so f*** simple).

Anybody more had a similar experience?

I'm not this way but I say if it works for you do it. Brings to mind one of my favorite quotes, "By any means necessary".

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15 Jun 2012, 3:59 am

Valkyrie2012 wrote:

A very complicated combo. But right now I'm thinking that I never thought on it as something strange. For me, it was the normal stuff, someway I thought that it was like this for everybody, when clearly it's not. What's funny is that the more I felt blocked, the more I tried to focus, the more I was setting aside emotions... and it looks like I was doing the opposite of what was needed :roll:

Rascal77s wrote:

I'm not this way but I say if it works for you do it. Brings to mind one of my favorite quotes, "By any means necessary".

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15 Jun 2012, 4:19 am

lol.. but isn't that the way of it? I do almost everything backwards... it is the running joke in my life. My boyfriend is always laughing and saying to turn it around backwards and I will get it lol...

I too thought so many things were "normal" that I now know clearly are not...

Your post has definitely made me think

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15 Jun 2012, 7:08 am

Valkyrie2012 wrote:

Yeap, and the worst thing is... everything looks so easy when you get it. You just wonder 'how couldn't I see it until now?'. I wonder sometimes why in the timetravel movies the main character never goes to visit his 'older version' and asks for advice. It would be the first thing I would do :lol:

Glad to hear it made you think

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16 Jun 2012, 1:12 pm

So... nobody?

I found some studies about it. It looks like something that has been studied only last two-three years, specially in Norway. A very rare case inside ASD. It looks like I'm in a very small minority inside a minority :roll:

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16 Jun 2012, 3:03 pm

I have found it to be helpful when it comes to my artistic abilities, but that is about it.

This best book I have read on the subject:

www.amazon.co.uk/Wednesday-Indigo-Blue-D...thesia/dp/0262012790

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16 Jun 2012, 4:47 pm

I have it to a mild extent and I usually tune it out, I couldn't use it to study - that would just leave me confused.

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17 Jun 2012, 4:28 am

Kjas wrote:

Thank you very much. I downloaded the first chapter in pdf and it looks very interesting. I'm gonna get it (BTW, if sombody wants to check it, here is the first chapter: http://www.eagleman.com/synchapters/0262012790chap1.pdf )

Unfortunatelly, it looks like it only considers synaesthesia applied to senses, not to abstract emotions. Anyway, it couldn't be otherwise, the research about this last one just began a couple of years ago.

Washi wrote:

I have it to a mild extent and I usually tune it out, I couldn't use it to study - that would just leave me confused.

Interesting. Mine is mild, too. But my feeling is just the opposite: I need to focus on this emotion/feeling if I want to study. It took me years to realize it (since it looks like something that doesn't make sense).

Anyway, those years I learnt to control emotions, so now I can focus on it without being confused and take profit of the way my mind works. But... ten years ago... would I have been able to focus on the emotion to study something or would I have felt too confused? Honestly, I have no idea. Perhaps it took me so much time because before now I couldn't manage emotions properly and I felt too confused... I don't know.

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17 Jun 2012, 5:01 am

Greb wrote:

Washi wrote:

I have it to a mild extent and I usually tune it out, I couldn't use it to study - that would just leave me confused.

I just tried to read what you wrote while allowing myself to visualize each word abstractly and it took a long time, and a lot of the word's abstractions for me have nothing to do with the meaning of the words so I'm left processing a lot of strange and irrelevant information.... Granted it's not something I ever pay much attention to and have to thoroughly clear my mind for it to register. I know there are people who do this with shapes and numbers and they're math savants. Maybe there's something useful in there for me but if there is I don't know what.

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17 Jun 2012, 5:24 am

Washi wrote:

No. It takes time for me too. I can feel the emotion, but it's complex, and abstract, and it's not always easy to identify. If I want to read a post here in the 'abstract thinking way' I have to translate 'word language'>'abstract emotions' and it takes more time than reading it in the 'normal way', where you don't need to make any translation. So it makes no sense to use it.

Where I have noticed a big difference is in more 'requiring' readings. For example: learning/reading a foreign language and trying to memorize the words I don't know, or reading a technical book where you have to fully understand/memorize every paragraph since it's used/developped in the following ones. It takes a bit more time to 'translate', but once 'translated' I understand and (specially) memorize it much better. Indeed, I feel someway that my short term memory works well with words, but my long term memory works only with abstract emotions. So until now I worked repeating, and repeating again, and repeating again, like striking something with a hammer until it enters somehow. Now it feels... well, just natural.

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17 Jun 2012, 9:31 am

I don't have this type, but I have grapheme-color (numbers,words,letters have color)
number-personality/gender/texture,. object-personality/gender, pain-color,. sound-emotion, and sound-kinetics.

its really cool but I toataly thought that thinking "oh the coffee table is a snob like 6" or when I stub my tow its bright orange yellow was normal, until I found out about synesthesia.

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