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01 Oct 2015, 10:03 am

I was travelling on the bus the other day and overheard the conversation between two middle-aged women on the seat behind. They were talking about the adult child of one of their friends. He's got Asperger's syndrome and one woman told the other about a recent family visit to an expensive restaurant where everyone in the group ordered from the set menu...except for the young man with AS; he chose separate items, all individually priced. As a consequence his meal cost twice as much as everyone else's. The total cost was split evenly amongst everyone, so he didn't have to pay any more than anyone else.

When her friend expressed a certain amount of dismay about this, the other woman just replied with, "He's got Asperger's; that's how they are...you just have to let them have what they want."

I was appalled...but didn't say anything. I certainly don't think that someone with Asperger's syndrome should just be given what they want, although I do see it happening to a degree with people I know...it's probably easier for their parents/carers.

Any thoughts on the subject would be appreciated.

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01 Oct 2015, 10:15 am

danum wrote:
I certainly don't think that someone with Asperger's syndrome should just be given what they want...

Any thoughts on the subject would be appreciated.


I agree. Great self-control by not engaging and trying to educate them. As I was typing this, strangely, overheard a similar bus conversation. The young woman was talking about a child. "He was misbehaving, but he's autistic, so he doesn't know what he's doing."

If someone seems receptive to learning/curious/etc, I find it beneficial to engage in conversation. Otherwise, I find I come off as aloof and do nothing to progress my actual goal (education about what autism REALLY is.)



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01 Oct 2015, 11:55 am

I would be fine with letting him have what he wants, just don't split the cost evenly. That would provide education and consequence.



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01 Oct 2015, 12:50 pm

danum wrote:
I was travelling on the bus the other day and overheard the conversation between two middle-aged women on the seat behind. They were talking about the adult child of one of their friends. He's got Asperger's syndrome and one woman told the other about a recent family visit to an expensive restaurant where everyone in the group ordered from the set menu...except for the young man with AS; he chose separate items, all individually priced. As a consequence his meal cost twice as much as everyone else's. The total cost was split evenly amongst everyone, so he didn't have to pay any more than anyone else.

When her friend expressed a certain amount of dismay about this, the other woman just replied with, "He's got Asperger's; that's how they are...you just have to let them have what they want."

I was appalled...but didn't say anything. I certainly don't think that someone with Asperger's syndrome should just be given what they want, although I do see it happening to a degree with people I know...it's probably easier for their parents/carers.

Any thoughts on the subject would be appreciated.

Thanks


She could have been talking about meals specifically....really hard to get full context whilst eaves dropping, also she could have been trying to simplify. I mean if the family knew how he was about having to get separate food items yet still chose to include him and not have him pay any extra that is kind of on them.....if that is part of how his condition manifests.

Also though commonly people will total the full cost of the meal and then divide it evenly among everyone even if not everyones costed the same....so nothing very strange about that at all.


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01 Oct 2015, 12:58 pm

I think they're doing him a huge disservice but sometimes people just let us get what we want because it's easier for them than dealing with the meltdowns, the anxiety, us being all fussy and hard to be with because we didn't get what we wanted so our whole day is thrown off. No way would my parents have let this happen but as a consequence I made their lives hell lol because of my anxiety and OCD and my hormones due to being a teen.


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01 Oct 2015, 4:07 pm

There are food sensitivities, allergies etc for both NT and autistics. I often have had to order a la cart because I am sensitive to or just do not like foods that most people adore. Usually dinners come with items I do not like and often thry are not brought to the table seperatly and the sauces interact with the item I like so I can't just seperate them and give it to somebody else.

All that bieng said teaching cost consciousness is a good thing. I do not use my picky taste as an excuse to order the most expensive thing on the menu but stick to cheaper items like sandwiches no toppings, no extras.


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01 Oct 2015, 5:47 pm

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There are food sensitivities, allergies etc for both NT and autistics. I often have had to order a la cart because I am sensitive to or just do not like foods that most people adore. Usually dinners come with items I do not like and often thry are not brought to the table seperatly and the sauces interact with the item I like so I can't just seperate them and give it to somebody else.

All that bieng said teaching cost consciousness is a good thing. I do not use my picky taste as an excuse to order the most expensive thing on the menu but stick to cheaper items like sandwiches no toppings, no extras.


I certainly have some food sensitivities....and no I can't just ignore them to 'be polite', however if I know someone else is paying or something like that then I inquire what our cost limit is so I can choose something in the price range that I'll be able to eat. I do really hate though when someone offers me food I don't know would bother me...and then I gag on it because the texture or a certain condiment I didn't see on it.

I have no idea how severe this individual the ladies on the bus were talking about is....but if he's say a lot lower functioning than someone like me...I could see how unless someone explained a price limit to him the price may not have really occurred to him rather than that he willingly used it as an 'excuse' to get the most expensive thing.


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