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18 Jul 2012, 10:28 am

and what is it? And how is it caused -

Well, this morning I was thinking about numbers.

You know how 9+3= 12, and how its like 10+3= 13 but you take away 1.
So I was thinking I could do something similar like that with the number 7.

So I did 7+3 and my brain told me 12?

Which I'm like NO ITS 10, why the did I do that?o_0



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18 Jul 2012, 10:33 am

I think only people with number brains spend time thinking about addition in the morning. =P

My thought processes are purely word based and I would never do that, likely just as you would never sit and contemplate the power of grammar and word placement to dramatically change meanings. =/


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18 Jul 2012, 10:36 am

Rebel_Nowe wrote:
I think only people with number brains spend time thinking about addition in the morning. =P

My thought processes are purely word based and I would never do that, likely just as you would never sit and contemplate the power of grammar and word placement to dramatically change meanings. =/


I mean, why did I make that mistake? Yeah I love numbers and algebra. I like the patterns



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18 Jul 2012, 10:41 am

You mean that you took away 1 when you should have taken away 3, and you're surprised you got the wrong answer?



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18 Jul 2012, 10:49 am

NateRiver wrote:
Rebel_Nowe wrote:
I think only people with number brains spend time thinking about addition in the morning. =P

My thought processes are purely word based and I would never do that, likely just as you would never sit and contemplate the power of grammar and word placement to dramatically change meanings. =/


I mean, why did I make that mistake? Yeah I love numbers and algebra. I like the patterns

1) You may have answered your question in what I bolded. You thought about a problem that made 12, then how a similar problem related to that manner of reaching 12, then another problem that your brain wanted to return to 12 for?

2) I think the fact that this bothers you may relate to my first post. I expect my brain to give me incorrect automath. I have to stop and think about 7 and 3 making 10. Math seems abstract and difficult to comprehend on a structural level compared to the innate functional connection between logic and language and meanings. I am similarly perturbed when my brain (as opposed to a typo by my clumsy fingers) causes me to make a common, simple language mistake I should never have let slide.


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18 Jul 2012, 10:55 am

Rebel_Nowe wrote:
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I think only people with number brains spend time thinking about addition in the morning. =P

My thought processes are purely word based and I would never do that, likely just as you would never sit and contemplate the power of grammar and word placement to dramatically change meanings. =/


I mean, why did I make that mistake? Yeah I love numbers and algebra. I like the patterns

1) You may have answered your question in what I bolded. You thought about a problem that made 12, then how a similar problem related to that manner of reaching 12, then another problem that your brain wanted to return to 12 for?

2) I think the fact that this bothers you may relate to my first post. I expect my brain to give me incorrect automath. I have to stop and think about 7 and 3 making 10. Math seems abstract and difficult to comprehend on a structural level compared to the innate functional connection between logic and language and meanings. I am similarly perturbed when my brain (as opposed to a typo by my clumsy fingers) causes me to make a common, simple language mistake I should never have let slide.


I have language delays and problems so language isn't my thing. I like maths but I make alot of stupid mistakes. Science is my best subject :D

Also, could of been a somewhat attention problem?



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18 Jul 2012, 10:56 am

Rebel_Nowe wrote:
NateRiver wrote:
Rebel_Nowe wrote:
I think only people with number brains spend time thinking about addition in the morning. =P

My thought processes are purely word based and I would never do that, likely just as you would never sit and contemplate the power of grammar and word placement to dramatically change meanings. =/


I mean, why did I make that mistake? Yeah I love numbers and algebra. I like the patterns

1) You may have answered your question in what I bolded. You thought about a problem that made 12, then how a similar problem related to that manner of reaching 12, then another problem that your brain wanted to return to 12 for?

2) I think the fact that this bothers you may relate to my first post. I expect my brain to give me incorrect automath. I have to stop and think about 7 and 3 making 10. Math seems abstract and difficult to comprehend on a structural level compared to the innate functional connection between logic and language and meanings. I am similarly perturbed when my brain (as opposed to a typo by my clumsy fingers) causes me to make a common, simple language mistake I should never have let slide.


I have language delays and problems so language isn't my thing. I like maths but I make alot of stupid mistakes. Science is my best subject :D

Also, could of it been a somewhat attention problem?



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18 Jul 2012, 10:58 am

I don't do that with numbers, but I do find myself spending far too much time contemplating the etiology of words and how someone ever thought to make a sound and create a word out of it. Who made the utterance "cat" and labeled the creature with it? I can just imagine the situation...



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18 Jul 2012, 11:00 am

I've never done that with addition/subtraction but with things like multiplication and division, I've made an error like that. I noticed it immediately and went back through the problem to correct it, but yes, I've made errors such as that. I'm NT. Math is definitely something that I struggle with, though. It's always seemed to complex and intimidating to me.

You said you were thinking about this in the morning, though - was it first thing in the morning? Could you have just been a bit sleepy? I know I certainly couldn't tackle any math problem first thing in the morning! :lol:


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18 Jul 2012, 11:03 am

LadybugS wrote:
I've never done that with addition/subtraction but with things like multiplication and division, I've made an error like that. I noticed it immediately and went back through the problem to correct it, but yes, I've made errors such as that. I'm NT. Math is definitely something that I struggle with, though. It's always seemed to complex and intimidating to me.

You said you were thinking about this in the morning, though - was it first thing in the morning? Could you have just been a bit sleepy? I know I certainly couldn't tackle any math problem first thing in the morning! :lol:



Yup, it was the first thing I thought about when I woke up XDDD



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18 Jul 2012, 11:29 am

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I don't do that with numbers, but I do find myself spending far too much time contemplating the etiology of words and how someone ever thought to make a sound and create a word out of it. Who made the utterance "cat" and labeled the creature with it? I can just imagine the situation...

Have you ever done any serious study of literary theory? If not, it sounds like you want to go to there. `-`


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18 Jul 2012, 11:48 am

I don't ever think about numbers like that, but the other day I found a ''number mystery'' what still confuses me now. I write a lot of stories and put them into a ''series'', and each book represents a year. The first book of stories was 2008, the second was 2009, and so on - right up to 2017 (yes I went into the future in my writing books), which is 9 years - but there are 10 books. I've double-checked and there's 1 year in each book, and so I haven't missed any out or done two of the same year, but somehow there are still 10 books when there should be 9 books.

Wha?????????


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18 Jul 2012, 11:57 am

Joe90 wrote:
I don't ever think about numbers like that, but the other day I found a ''number mystery'' what still confuses me now. I write a lot of stories and put them into a ''series'', and each book represents a year. The first book of stories was 2008, the second was 2009, and so on - right up to 2017 (yes I went into the future in my writing books), which is 9 years - but there are 10 books. I've double-checked and there's 1 year in each book, and so I haven't missed any out or done two of the same year, but somehow there are still 10 books when there should be 9 books.

Wha?????????

There is a 9 year difference between 2008 and 2017, but, when 2008 is included, you have 10 years. Count them on your fingers. I just did. `-`

It's like starting on 1 and marching to 10 gives you 9 steps, but you have experienced 10 numbers, if that makes sense.


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18 Jul 2012, 12:10 pm

CyborgUprising wrote:
I don't do that with numbers, but I do find myself spending far too much time contemplating the etiology of words and how someone ever thought to make a sound and create a word out of it. Who made the utterance "cat" and labeled the creature with it? I can just imagine the situation...


Children created the first language and words because language acquisition is an innate function of their minds.



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18 Jul 2012, 12:19 pm

Marybird wrote:
CyborgUprising wrote:
I don't do that with numbers, but I do find myself spending far too much time contemplating the etiology of words and how someone ever thought to make a sound and create a word out of it. Who made the utterance "cat" and labeled the creature with it? I can just imagine the situation...


Children created the first language and words because language acquisition is an innate function of their minds.

It's an innate potential. Language is thought to have been born from survival necessity. Then children, being born with ever greater language potential, sped the development by learning at a young age the words their precursors had at various ages needed to develop. There has never been a large enough autonomous group of children who could survive to make a language.


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18 Jul 2012, 4:54 pm

ToughDiamond wrote:
You mean that you took away 1 when you should have taken away 3, and you're surprised you got the wrong answer?


I think I was distracted