Are dyslexic NTs easier to get along with?

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25 Nov 2013, 4:45 am

I found a thread here talking about this: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt237804.html
Do people have any thoughts on this?

I am a dyslexic NT, so that's why I found the thread interesting.

I have also heard it said that some consider dyslexical to almost be the opposite of autism due to some people with autism being hyperlexic and people with dyslexia being social. I'm not sure that I agree with this given that not all dyslexic people have trouble with reading and writing, and not all people with autism will be hyperlexic. The same goes for being social or not. Maybe it's because dyslexic people are exactly NT, so there's room for understanding.

What do people think?



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25 Nov 2013, 4:58 am

I am both dyslexic and austistic. How does it change a persons personality of they are dyslexic. I am better with numbers though. I get along great though with people that are AMAZING with letters. They help me out and are useually ok with my social awkwordness. I also am dysigrafic. Can't spell that one though. I can't spell mos words. Oh well. I just dont know if I think it matters. I would accept anyone as long as they accept me. ALL of me. I hope that helps.



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25 Nov 2013, 5:12 am

AshTrees wrote:
I have also heard it said that some consider dyslexical to almost be the opposite of autism due to some people with autism being hyperlexic and people with dyslexia being social


That's not true.
A person with autism is more on an extrem in every way, so he/she is more likely to have hyperlexia OR dyslexia.
I've traits of both, dyslexia and autism.

But because of my nature I studied extremely hard to be able to read and write mostly correct. My NT cousin didn't do this to this extreme and eventhough we were pretty much the same as children (extremely bad writers), now I can write and she has huge difficulties and has many mistakes in every single sentences.
For me it has many advantages, but also the disadvantage, that many ppl first don't believe me that I've been hughly dyslexic as a child.


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25 Nov 2013, 6:32 am

Dyslexia/hyperlexia and autism are completely unrelated.


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25 Nov 2013, 7:59 am

Couldn´t it be, that people, who have had to be open about their own problems, are less afraid and have become more open to human qualities in others, and less prone to falling for BS?


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25 Nov 2013, 2:47 pm

pete1061 wrote:
Dyslexia/hyperlexia and autism are completely unrelated.
But, they are. They are often found as co-morbids. It's much more common for those with autism to have dyslexia/ hyperlexia than it is for those in the general population.


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25 Nov 2013, 4:06 pm

Eh? Dyslexics are considered NTs now??



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25 Nov 2013, 4:09 pm

There is no such thing as a dyslexic neurotypical. A neurotypical is somebody whose brain functions typically, as in they have no neurological disorders or diseases. A dyslexic person's brain isn't working in a typical fashion as dyslexics process information differently. Well, that's what everybody else says. I can't say I know enough about neurobiology to say what constitutes as NT anyway. It's not really a scientific term, anyway.

Incidentally, autism and dyslexia can be related, but not always.



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25 Nov 2013, 4:09 pm

My husband is an NT and very dyslexic. He rarely reads because of it. He's no different than anybody else and no easier to get along with I wouldn't think. But then he did marry me. I don't see any spectrum like symptoms from him though. Except the Star Trek/Star Wars/X-Files/sci-fi space stuff that he's into though, but that's hardly confined to just AS/ASD folks although a higher percentage may be into it than the general population, I don't know.



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25 Nov 2013, 9:11 pm

Have a friend who is dyslexic. Doesnt make him easier to relate to than anyone else. In fact it causes me to laugh up my sleave at him when he expresses amazement that I can "read maps", and other things I taught myself to do when I was eight years old. I dont see how dyslexia, and aspergers have any kinship at all.



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26 Nov 2013, 5:00 am

No. Dyslexic NTs are not easier to get along with, (nor harder for that matter).

I'm neither dyslexic nor hyperlexic


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26 Nov 2013, 9:11 am

Hmm, don't think I know anybody who is dyslexic, NT or not. I know plenty of people who can't think, however. :D

I get along with any people who are nice and understanding.


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26 Nov 2013, 12:48 pm

I haven't done a formal study or anything, but I suspect the correlation would be weak at best, let alone causation. Insofar as it's true, I subscribe to Jensen's theory of people having to be open about their own difficulties.

All that said, my best friend is lysdexic. I think that he may have some autistic traits as well, but that's not official.



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26 Nov 2013, 4:21 pm

Wow, I thought that saying "dislexic NTs" was like saying "blind people who can see".
Isn't dyslexia supposed to be a brain difference? Isn't that supposed to mean that one doesn't have a normally-wired brain? Isn't that supposed to mean one is not NT?
Anyway, Andrew has mild dyslexia and we get along well.



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26 Nov 2013, 5:30 pm

Well, just to buck the trend a little, I'd tentatively say that dyslexics may have a greater potential to be easier to deal with.

My partner is dyslexic and I've known many other dyslexics over the years. At the same time I'm not a proper aspie, but I am strongly BAP and don't make friends easily. Given those prerequisites I'd say the following (but this isn't scientific so please don't pounce on me too hard!):

1. Dyslexia & Personality: I feel I have noticed certain common traits amongst many people with dyslexia (though not all). I frequently find my partner's tendency towards confusing lateral thinking mirrored by a dyslexic person I work with to the point where I'm sometimes able to translate her point of view to others because of all the years I've lived with my partner. Similarly I've noticed social adeptness, dynamism, tendencies towards greater use of intuition in judging people/events, and a certain off-the-wall sense of humour. I think there's a reason it's often said so many entrepreneurs are dyslexic - they can often have the right mix of business, creativity and networking to make things happen. On the flip side, many people I know with dyslexia are tempestuous or emotionally unpredictable and struggle to budge once they've got stuck on an idea so misunderstandings and communication issues can be a problem. I've seen this same pattern repeated both at home and at work with different people too. Nobody ever seems to mention emotional problems in dyslexia, but if you Google it you'll find lots of people asking about that because they're struggling with it in families/relationships. Communications problems are a constant problem between my partner and myself.

2. Compatibility with Dyslexics: I find I tend to work well with people who have traits like those above (apart from the tempestuousness!) and I begin to suspect that it's not so much a coincidence that so many people I know are dyslexic these days. These are relationships with a greater chance of sticking for me though I can't say exactly why. What I can confirm is that my partner develops very fast and instinctive first-impressions of people and he took kindly to me when we first met where he will instantly take against so many others to whom I stupidly give the benefit of the doubt. I can honestly say he's the only person to have ever really seen me for who I am. But at the same time, the 2nd and 3rd people on my list of those who "get" me are both neurologically unusual too (no. 3 is also dyslexic, and transgender). Basically after many years of observation of the people around me I think I've got quite good at spotting various neurological subtypes and I often gel with these groups more than I do the average neurotypical. It may be down to open-mindedness after dealing with own problems or feeling different but I don't think that's the whole story.

That's all I'm going to say for now because I'm sure plenty of holes can be picked in what I've said already. But all this is just my opinion based on observation, experiences and a few hunches. I'm open to debate.


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29 Nov 2013, 11:06 am

I do.

I'm not dyslexic, but one of my autistic friends is dyslexic.


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