Aspie = Evolutionary Leap Forward? Two Questions!

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I recently met a mother of two autistic children who's sanity is somewhat questionable, according to another undiagnosed Aspie friend. But she was very helpful and nice to me, and even promoted Aspergers as being this evolutionary leap. She even went on to state that if this were an Aspie world, which she claims it one day will be, if NT people populated something minute like 10% of the population, they simply wouldn't be able to keep up with the world we'd build.

I really like this logic, OBVIOUSLY - it's like selling Heaven to babies learning about Jesus: It sounds great! But how much validity do you think there is to it? We're not dumber or smarter by any means, (please don't pitch an argument about that statement here) we're facing varying degrees of difficulties with stuff like social grace and relationships, and our hangups are all over the place, whether you're a wee bit bi-polar, OCD, ADD, etc etc etc...

But what happens when that's the norm and it doesn't hurt so much? When it's not the wrong planet anymore? That stuff just wouldn't matter that much anymore, and we could focus on our strong points instead. I've heard that Einstein might've been an Aspie. Bill Gates is one. Owl City? What happens when we're not so caught up on trying to fit in, and it's our world to form and play with as we deem?

I guess I have two questions:

Does anyone else think this is true? I was inspired to write this post because someone else posted a thread about Asperger's being an evolutionary dead-end, which I have to disagree with since we're actually growing in number and thanks to the internet and overall awareness, FINDING each other. So do you think we're an evolutionary leap forward, just facing some setbacks in the early goings?

Now for the fun part. If we are an evolutionary leap, can you picture an Aspie world? Flip the current NT to Aspie ratio - what's that world like?

perhaps we aspies/auties could be an evolutionarily leap forward. Like you said,there does seem to be more of us and we are finding each other more often. But how often do to autism spectrumers have autistic kids?

now the fun part: and aspie/autie world
there would be more creativity,less criticism. More of us would not be scared to be our selfs. We could stim in public with out having to worry about people stareing. There would be less teen pregnancy/drug abuse. I think people would be nicer to each other.
going out in public would cause less anxiety because you wouldn't have to worry about people correcting or looking down on you. People could be chosen to do a job based on there special interests. People interested in computers could work on computers instead of the local fast food place. Etc.

(btw, owl city is like my favorite band, and he said in an interview he has aspergers which caused me a fangirl attack btw)

perhaps we aspies/auties could be an evolutionarily leap forward. Like you said,there does seem to be more of us and we are finding each other more often. But how often do to autism spectrumers have autistic kids?

now the fun part: and aspie/autie world
there would be more creativity,less criticism. More of us would not be scared to be our selfs. We could stim in public with out having to worry about people stareing. There would be less teen pregnancy/drug abuse. I think people would be nicer to each other.
going out in public would cause less anxiety because you wouldn't have to worry about people correcting or looking down on you. People could be chosen to do a job based on there special interests. People interested in computers could work on computers instead of the local fast food place. Etc.

(btw, owl city is like my favorite band, and he said in an interview he has aspergers which caused me a fangirl attack btw)

no. No. NO!! !! !
Whenever this topic comes up it turns into an autism supremacists topic.

[sarcasm]Really?[/sarcasm]

I'm new here and I was curious what people thought.

Besides, who cares if it gets a little "autism supremacists?" We live in an NT supremacy. A boy can dream, can't he? "no. No. NO!! !! !"

sorry, I didn't realize you were new, usually I am good about checking that. Just get tired of people saying "we are better than the NT's"

I don't like the term anyway. About half of the population would qualify for a mental difference. So neurotypical...sure.

I like the inclusion of less teen pregnancy/drug abuse. I never would've thought of that, but it's probably true. And I think most people would be nicer to each other by default, but not all. Some might even be worse... for instance, someone who in this world would try to blend more, but in aspie world would feel free to let loose, even if their stimming or "x" behavior was dangerous in some way.

And I don't know anything but the firefly song by Owl City; I'd heard he was an Aspie on this forum.

No. Simply... no.

I'm sure the OP wasn't intending "were better then NTs " its just fun to imagine a world were auties/aspies are more common.

I'm sure the OP wasn't intending "were better then NTs " its just fun to imagine a world were auties/aspies are more common.

Not saying he meant it like that, just that lots of times that is what this type of thread turns into.

I have conversations with people who aren't there for hours on end. I get nothing done in my life because of this and dozens of other processes I have to follow. Better? In some ways, I have gifts, sure. Many of us do. But I'd call out anyone who took it and ran. (meaning: I'd shake my finger angrily at a reply-er who ignores all the bad and just claims superiority.) I mean, my primary source of communicating with people right now is a message board I found 5 days ago! (hint: you're looking at it.) How does that make me better? Anyone who wants to go off on a better-than-thou diatribe here is probably in similar shoes as mine, and will get quickly hushed. I mean, they're HERE, aren't they? Not that it's a prison; quite the contrary. But still, if we weren't "facing some issues," we could be in a circle of friends watching a movie in a noisy theater and loving it. Not here. So anyone replying that way is a dolt simply by the merit of replying that way.

So what about an aspie world, huh? What do you think?

I don't want to discuss terminology and whether-or-not-we're-disabled, etc etc on a thread like this because it's already bound to get soooo far off-base, you know, because we're... different.

No to the question of are we an evolutionary leap? What if we're in the early stages, working out the kinks? No?

Again, no.
Internet makes people with social difficulties of any kind to have an easier time, not just autistic people. This is a FAR cry from "evolution"... this is rather technology making lives easier.

As it is now, each individual must struggle for acceptance and equal rights, not to be some kinf of imaginary superior being... that's wrong, sad, among other, lower adjectives.

As for finding each other... my (2) friends are both "NTs"... and no better or worse than I am.

This topic feels very wrong. But carry on... it's just I doubt I'll ever agree to this.

See, that's where you're out of line. And normally I wouldn't say that about someone's opinion. But you're telling me I (and anyone who plays along with this post) is struggling to be some kind of imaginary superior being? First of all, that's not what I'm doing. I'm using my imagination and thinking outside of the box. Not trying to be the second-coming of Hitler H. Christ. And secondly, what's wrong, sad, and so much more horrifying than "sad" and "wrong" that you can't even come up with a demeaning-enough adjective, about my imagination???? Go write a f*****g novel sometime! Sad. Wrong. And so many more things I can't even lower myself to say about your imagination!

Thanks for the permission to carry on.

Granted. I'm a fairly generous human being.