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22 Oct 2020, 7:53 pm

Hey all,

So i did some exercise this morning and I soon realised how bad I am at balancing, I took my shoes off too as suggested by the exercise Chick n it made no difference. Does anyone else have problems with balancing and keeping your feet straight and stuff?? Like I'm very uncordinated. I can't balance well.. I only realised today. Anyone else have this kind of issues??? :? :( :?: :|



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22 Oct 2020, 7:57 pm

Yes and I have no idea why. I am also extremely clumsy and live in constant fear of falling down the stairs.



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22 Oct 2020, 9:06 pm

I do alright where balance is concerned, it's spatial awareness that gets me every time. I'm less likely to trip and fall than I am to say, open a cupboard door right into my face or walk into a table. My balance and coordination are pretty good though.



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22 Oct 2020, 9:24 pm

It is variable.
What makes it different from day to day is a thing I do not know.


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22 Oct 2020, 9:30 pm

FleaOfTheChill wrote:
I do alright where balance is concerned, it's spatial awareness that gets me every time. I'm less likely to trip and fall than I am to say, open a cupboard door right into my face or walk into a table. My balance and coordination are pretty good though.


This made me laugh a good belly laugh because thats totally me. Hahaha. The lady at the eye glasses place at one point thought I was making up excuses for my glasses always getting out of wack and needed to be adjusted. She thought I was being abused. Its not funny but it is, because of how ridiculous the ways in which I would run into things or wack myself in the face would happen. She didn't believe me until one day I was playing with some sunglasses they had on display and totally almost poked my eye out trying to get them on while talking to her. And then knocked over a display. I was still standing upright though. Luckily, she's still really friendly with me and even talks to me when I walk by when I don't need glasses adjustment.


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23 Oct 2020, 12:02 am

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Yes and I have no idea why. I am also extremely clumsy and live in constant fear of falling down the stairs.


Thought I was the only person alive who had this problem. It seems after reading up on proprioception may explain why I trip over my feet foot or walk into something if I lose attention or concentration of what in doing .. even for a split second. Your Post is very touching home... For me can't describe the feeling associated with it but it makes me want to kinda cry but not in a sad way. If that makes sense? Thanks and it's good to know that I'm not the only person who has this problem. I cannot talk to others about this but maybe my psychologist as I've just become aware of what proprioception is. :|



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23 Oct 2020, 12:06 am

Spunge42 wrote:
FleaOfTheChill wrote:
I do alright where balance is concerned, it's spatial awareness that gets me every time. I'm less likely to trip and fall than I am to say, open a cupboard door right into my face or walk into a table. My balance and coordination are pretty good though.


This made me laugh a good belly laugh because thats totally me. Hahaha. The lady at the eye glasses place at one point thought I was making up excuses for my glasses always getting out of wack and needed to be adjusted. She thought I was being abused. Its not funny but it is, because of how ridiculous the ways in which I would run into things or wack myself in the face would happen. She didn't believe me until one day I was playing with some sunglasses they had on display and totally almost poked my eye out trying to get them on while talking to her. And then knocked over a display. I was still standing upright though. Luckily, she's still really friendly with me and even talks to me when I walk by when I don't need glasses adjustment.


Totally understand now why I hit my head on things and walk into the cupboard door I just opened whilst in cooking.. one cupboard in particular that I hit almost every time I'm cooking and leave it open! I'm not alone in this and it feels calming to know that! 8) :heart:



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23 Oct 2020, 12:08 am

Danusaurus wrote:
malavois wrote:
Yes and I have no idea why. I am also extremely clumsy and live in constant fear of falling down the stairs.


Thought I was the only person alive who had this problem. It seems after reading up on proprioception may explain why I trip over my feet foot or walk into something if I lose attention or concentration of what in doing .. even for a split second. Your Post is very touching home... For me can't describe the feeling associated with it but it makes me want to kinda cry but not in a sad way. If that makes sense? Thanks and it's good to know that I'm not the only person who has this problem. I cannot talk to others about this but maybe my psychologist as I've just become aware of what proprioception is. :|


I hear you! I’ve had that same experience in some other threads here. It’s definitely nice to not feel alone anymore :)

I’ve never really looked into proprioception, thanks for bringing that up!



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23 Oct 2020, 12:48 am

I don't for most part.
Movement happened to be one of my strengths and my best adaptive asset so far.

For some reason, it seem like I had some layers of backup concerning balance.
Like I can trip or even sway often, but almost never fall by catching myself.


Had a one leg stand balance test once on myself. Here are my results;

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Eyes open, movement allowed: 235 secs (About 4 mins) it's what my stamina allowed.
Eyes open, movement not allowed: 122 secs (2 mins)
Eyes closed, movement allowed: 25 secs -- supposedly below average score of the next test variation
Eyes closed, movement not allowed: 12 secs

No matter it's reliability...
It's kinda telling I'm compensating my inner and passive sense of balance for something external and active...

I'm aware of facts of visual and spatial awareness, proprioceptive senses related from balance... But there's a bit more to it, I've yet to find words for...


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23 Oct 2020, 3:12 am

malavois wrote:
Danusaurus wrote:
malavois wrote:
Yes and I have no idea why. I am also extremely clumsy and live in constant fear of falling down the stairs.


Thought I was the only person alive who had this problem. It seems after reading up on proprioception may explain why I trip over my feet foot or walk into something if I lose attention or concentration of what in doing .. even for a split second. Your Post is very touching home... For me can't describe the feeling associated with it but it makes me want to kinda cry but not in a sad way. If that makes sense? Thanks and it's good to know that I'm not the only person who has this problem. I cannot talk to others about this but maybe my psychologist as I've just become aware of what proprioception is. :|


I hear you! I’ve had that same experience in some other threads here. It’s definitely nice to not feel alone anymore :)

I’ve never really looked into proprioception, thanks for bringing that up!


Yeah I saw it on a website when I googled about the title subject. I never new about it either. I'm much like people on here and it's comforting to know! Your welcome too BTW. 8) :D



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23 Oct 2020, 3:17 am

Edna3362 wrote:
I don't for most part.
Movement happened to be one of my strengths and my best adaptive asset so far.

For some reason, it seem like I had some layers of backup concerning balance.
Like I can trip or even sway often, but almost never fall by catching myself.


Had a one leg stand balance test once on myself. Here are my results;
Quote:
Eyes open, movement allowed: 235 secs (About 4 mins) it's what my stamina allowed.
Eyes open, movement not allowed: 122 secs (2 mins)
Eyes closed, movement allowed: 25 secs -- supposedly below average score of the next test variation
Eyes closed, movement not allowed: 12 secs

No matter it's reliability...
It's kinda telling I'm compensating my inner and passive sense of balance for something external and active...

I'm aware of facts of visual and spatial awareness, proprioceptive senses related from balance... But there's a bit more to it, I've yet to find words for...


Indeed 8) I can't really stand still so if fail on that part. I often tend to walk akward to compensate for the angle of my left foot so it's either limp to compensate my balance or sway. This has been mentioned to me before so I understand what you mean.



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23 Oct 2020, 5:58 am

My balance is probably below average, but not a problem. I do fine on a bicycle or throwing a car around.



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23 Oct 2020, 6:48 am

Danusaurus wrote:
Spunge42 wrote:
FleaOfTheChill wrote:
I do alright where balance is concerned, it's spatial awareness that gets me every time. I'm less likely to trip and fall than I am to say, open a cupboard door right into my face or walk into a table. My balance and coordination are pretty good though.


This made me laugh a good belly laugh because thats totally me. Hahaha. The lady at the eye glasses place at one point thought I was making up excuses for my glasses always getting out of wack and needed to be adjusted. She thought I was being abused. Its not funny but it is, because of how ridiculous the ways in which I would run into things or wack myself in the face would happen. She didn't believe me until one day I was playing with some sunglasses they had on display and totally almost poked my eye out trying to get them on while talking to her. And then knocked over a display. I was still standing upright though. Luckily, she's still really friendly with me and even talks to me when I walk by when I don't need glasses adjustment.


Totally understand now why I hit my head on things and walk into the cupboard door I just opened whilst in cooking.. one cupboard in particular that I hit almost every time I'm cooking and leave it open! I'm not alone in this and it feels calming to know that! 8) :heart:


@Spunge, I get that. I don't wear shorts ever because of the bruises on my legs. I look half leopard with all my 'purple spots'. I've broken almost every one of my toes from bashing them into table legs, corners, the entertainment stand, whatever. I've cut and bruised my own face. it can prompt people to worry, until they see me in action that is. Then they understand. Eventually.

@Danusaurus, some people rock spatial awareness, some of us, not so much. You are very much not alone in that. I'm also prone to forgetting to shut cupboard doors and walk into them, it's like they become invisible on me something. I do it enough, you'd think I'd remember to shut the damn things, but nope. Eh, at least they move one
In the same direction as the face colliding with them though, lessen the impact some.



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23 Oct 2020, 7:02 pm

FleaOfTheChill wrote:
I do alright where balance is concerned, it's spatial awareness that gets me every time. I'm less likely to trip and fall than I am to say, open a cupboard door right into my face or walk into a table. My balance and coordination are pretty good though.
Same, I often walk into objects and I also often stumble but my balance is good enough to recover most of the time. My coordination is pretty good but it hasn't always been that way.


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23 Oct 2020, 7:11 pm

The first warning that I am going into a shutdown is when my balance is effected.



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23 Oct 2020, 7:32 pm

I believe an individuals balance is determined by how developed their motor cortex is.
I read that it is not uncommon for people with ASD to also have co-morbidly present dyspraxia, which is also likely present due to having a damaged or underdeveloped motor cortex.

I think that i may be a rare example of an individual who has a highly developed motor cortex that gives me superior co-ordination, balance. This coupled with a developed visual cortex and higher than average intelligence, some things in life are easier for me.

Before anyone gets upset, please be aware that this overdeveloped attributes is not without consequences.
I still have loads of areas in life that i am very clueless about and that I have major problems with that stills warrants me to being diagnosed as having Autism Spectrum Disorder. To be honest, i wish i didn't. But that's just how it is.

We all as individual human beings have our own challenges in life, some more than others. I guess we all just need to learn to live to the best of our capabilities and try and do the best to enjoy and achieve our goals in life, what ever they may be.

Returning to balance, as a kid, while training in American Kenpo karate. i taught myself how to develop superior balance by my own solo training outside of the normal class (which i frequented as a kid on a daily basis.. obsessive interest).

I started to train extra every day in my bedroom or my folks garden, by practising the various kicks i knew, but while standing on one leg to do so. Almost something like from a cheesey 80s martial movie. But you know what, it worked a treat. and eventually i could stand on one leg and fire out a range of various kicks while staying solid in my one legged stance. A bit like the legendary US kickboxer from the 80s Bill Superfoot Wallance.

My balance improved later on by training in Aikido for a few years. An art where you have to receive your partners as well as your masters throws. An art that has no strikes in, especially no leg strikes, which you learn to keep your feet firmly nailed to the ground.

This theory was mirrored in Kendo, the art of Japanese swordmanship which i studied along side aikido, which you learn to learn to make minimal movements with your feet, so as to prevent telegraphing your movements to your opponent (as telegraphing tells your opponent what your intentions are and gives them a signal to defend and to counter attack your attacks).

After that, i did go onto training in Judo, which again, is an art where you need good balance, or you get thrown very easily. After a few years training in that, i would say that my balance is now better than average.

Unless of course, if i drink lots of alcohol and then i lose my ability to stay balanced. But there ya go.

having a developed Motor cortex as well as a developed visual cortex from birth does give you an advantage in these areas of life. Shame my capacity for stress is compromised and I am hypersensitive to sensory information.
great for war, as it makes me a bit hyper vigilant, but crap for normal life. as being on edge all the time does my own as well as others heads in.