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27 Aug 2012, 7:00 pm

I used to come here with a different username but stopped coming here for a while because I can't help but feel annoyed with all the whiny posts I see here. Every other post is full of "I cants" and "I sucks" and other similar self loathing rants. Now I'm not trying to be mean but I can't help but to feel irritated with all the negativity.
Personally I find this kind of thinking to be even worse than someone who is just simply mean. Here's why I feel this way.
Take someone for example whos just simply mean and selfish. Now I'm not condoning being mean but Im going to say at least they are doing things on purpose and don't usually get in their own way. At least their usually self sufficient.
Now take someone for example who is self loathing and afarid to try anything. They become too weak to do things for themselves and bring down everyone around them. They sometimes even follow what someone who is mean is telling them to do and will not stand their ground.
Heres an example of what I mean by this.
Say theres a mother and a father who have kids together. The father is abusive towards them and the mother is too scared to stand up for her children. CPS is called by a neighbor and the father is put in jail. Should the mother have rights to keep the kids? Hell no! I think she is just as guilty for letting this situation happen and should also be thrown in jail for not sticking up for her kids.
This is why I feel that self-loathing people are just as bad if not worse than mean people.


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27 Aug 2012, 7:05 pm

Schizpergers wrote:
Say theres a mother and a father who have kids together. The father is abusive towards them and the mother is too scared to stand up for her children. CPS is called by a neighbor and the father is put in jail. Should the mother have rights to keep the kids? Hell no! I think she is just as guilty for letting this situation happen and should also be thrown in jail for not sticking up for her kids.

So deliberate, regular violence against children is just as bad as failing to escape an abusive relationship? Should the Jews have just stood up to the Egyptians? :roll:

I agree to an extent with the rest of your post though, it really annoys me when I see people say "why must I be cursed with autism?" and things like that.



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27 Aug 2012, 7:05 pm

Pretty certain this is a troll post. Don't feed the troll.



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27 Aug 2012, 7:19 pm

It's hard to determine through the internet who really can't achieve what they want due to extenuating circumstances or who are just whiny attention seekers. They suggest you should err on the side of caution and treat all those who seek help as really in need because that's what the forum is for.



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27 Aug 2012, 7:25 pm

invisiblesilent wrote:
Pretty certain this is a troll post. Don't feed the troll.
Seriously? A troll post? I'm not even offended really, but I am curious as to what makes me sound like I'm trolling? I wasn't intending to sound humorous.
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So deliberate, regular violence against children is just as bad as failing to escape an abusive relationship?.
It depends. If you're the one being abused then no if its not happening to others, but that should still be something you should put a stop to. If its someone who knows about it and does nothing then, yes I think its just as bad.
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Should the Jews have just stood up to the Egyptians?
That's irrivalant. The jews did stand up to the Egyptians.


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27 Aug 2012, 7:29 pm

Honestly? Just the fact that a very old account with next to no posts pops up to say something pretty controversial. I'll apologise if it turns out I was wrong but I wouldn't bet on it. The best troll posts are not obvious so the fact that you didn't start with an outright attack doesn't mean a great deal.



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27 Aug 2012, 7:43 pm

invisiblesilent wrote:
the fact that you didn't start with an outright attack doesn't mean a great deal.
Are you implying that you are in attempt to anger me? I hasn't worked yet if you are.
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Just the fact that a very old account with next to no posts pops up to say something pretty controversial.

I made this user name a long time ago but hasnt used it till now because i had another accound i used. I stopped coming here for a while and i logged in using the other account i made before.
How am I being any more contrivercial as anyone else? I susspose I may also seem to be seeming to post a negative topic because you cant complain about complaining without complaining. However I wasnt really complaining, i was just wondering if my opinions are shared because people seem to think different things than others and this is a place where people have different ideas..


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27 Aug 2012, 7:48 pm

If you don't like whiny posts then don't read them. And you sound young and inexperienced in the world to think that life is so simple and pat. Sometimes when people complain they are just whining, and sometimes it sounds like they're whining because you've not been in their shoes and don't know all the details.

It's like I'm sure I have relatives who roll their eyes when my mother tells them I'm on SSDI for "chronic fatigue syndrome." But the basis of my disability claim wasn't "CFS," but rather "cognitive disorder" and "dysautonomia." But they won't consider any other possibility outside of "the social security disability system is too easy." They're ignorant of the facts, but don't know it (and probably don't care to know), which leads them to incorrect conclusions.

As far as the abused woman hypothetical story: Ok, so she leaves the guy, as you would blithely approve of. But her boyfriend is a cop, and he uses his resources to track her down and kill her, just like he told her he would if she ever left him. She tried getting restraining orders but it's small county and all the cops and judicial people know each other and do each other favors. She was saving up to flee the state and her boyfriend's reach, but she had this naive friend who kept telling her that she ought to "do something" instead of 'whining', so she left before she had enough money.



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27 Aug 2012, 7:52 pm

No I'm not attempting to anger you. Like I said if it turns out I was wrong I'll come back to this thread and apologise. Til that becomes clear though I'm done with this thread because I sincerely believe that you are trolling and I have no intention of playing that game.



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27 Aug 2012, 8:01 pm

Am I the only one finding it ironic that someone is whining about people whining to much?

People come here to deal with crap in life they can't or won't speak to people in person about because of fear or necessity.
Everyone here is in a fairly crappy situation so I'm sorry our less then ecstatic attitudes upset you.
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27 Aug 2012, 8:09 pm

Schizpergers wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
Should the Jews have just stood up to the Egyptians?
That's irrivalant. The jews did stand up to the Egyptians.

No, I think it is as good as analogies go.

Whenever the Jews stood up, they were beaten down, so they stopped standing up. Only when God (the police) intervened did they win freedom. Did God turn around and punish the Jews for not stopping the Egyptians?



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27 Aug 2012, 8:22 pm

I get a little annoyed that a lot of people seem to think that every little quirk is associated with aspergers.

As per the negativity, this is a safe place to cool off and rant about things. I think it is very important that people are allowed to do that, rather than bottle it up all the time.



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27 Aug 2012, 8:34 pm

Schizpergers wrote:
I used to come here with a different username but stopped coming here for a while because I can't help but feel annoyed with all the whiny posts I see here. Every other post is full of "I cants" and "I sucks" and other similar self loathing rants. Now I'm not trying to be mean but I can't help but to feel irritated with all the negativity.

so you thought you'd make this site more positive by.... starting a negative and whiny thread?


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27 Aug 2012, 8:40 pm

Mike_Garrick wrote:
Am I the only one finding it ironic that someone is whining about people whining to much?

People come here to deal with crap in life they can't or won't speak to people in person about because of fear or necessity.
Everyone here is in a fairly crappy situation so I'm sorry our less then ecstatic attitudes upset you.
Not everyone can take dog crap and turn it into gold.


Exactly, a lot of the point of this website is to help people cope and to talk to people who are going through similar situations. Not everybody is negative and even if they are they have a right to be, we all have our highs and lows. There are other forums out there if you want something that's more positive and happy for you. If you don't like the post then don't read it.



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27 Aug 2012, 8:44 pm

You know, the best thing to do when you see all the negativity on here and can't deal with for a moment is simple: log off, find something else to do that will make you feel happier. I do that all the time.



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27 Aug 2012, 8:56 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
Schizpergers wrote:
Say theres a mother and a father who have kids together. The father is abusive towards them and the mother is too scared to stand up for her children. CPS is called by a neighbor and the father is put in jail. Should the mother have rights to keep the kids? Hell no! I think she is just as guilty for letting this situation happen and should also be thrown in jail for not sticking up for her kids.


Come and live in my house hold, Im autistic, with an abusive autistic father, n yeah my mum does stand up to him with her life in her hands when she does. she risks a life on the run if she leaves n an uncertain future if she stays... me on the other hand, i cant live alone, i cant live with other people but i most certainly cant live at home but home is a lot better than being depressed n being put on meds n s**t like that simple becuase i cant handle living alone or with strangers. There are reasons a lot of reasons behind issues and you have no place to judge a mothers actions.

You're as bad as my ex, saying i am a bad mother because i have post natal depression!! ! Well you know what heres some negativity for you right in the face SCREW YOU!! !