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26 Sep 2012, 1:46 am

Whenever i tell someone i have aspergers they laugh at me and say ''no you dont mate'' its all in your head. and i ask well why do you think that? and they say ''look at you , your not ret*d''.

Its weird because i think if i was skinny with glasses, firstly i wouldnt have friends, and secondly they would believe me.

I guess todays world is all about appearance. Anyone had similar experiences?



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26 Sep 2012, 1:53 am

No one ever believed me. Everyone says I'm completely normal just weird/lazy/selfish/have a sh***y personality.


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26 Sep 2012, 2:18 am

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i think if i was skinny with glasses, firstly i wouldnt have friends, and secondly they would believe me.


Most people who know about my ASD told me "You needed a doc for diagnosis? I could have told you the same".
But actually I am skinny, small, pale and I wear glasses...



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26 Sep 2012, 2:47 am

When I was at highschool, the only other people who knew I had HFA were other people on the spectrum. Everyone else just assumed I was an asocial jerk for no good reason.


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26 Sep 2012, 2:48 am

My wife doesn't believe it either ; she thinks my aspie traits (including AQ score of 43) were caused by my past very isolated upbringing in total silent household with a single mother who hardly ever spoke, so I never got introduced to the idea of socialising and never had a 'daddy figure' in the family. Oh yes and of course the fact that I can't filter out background noise means I can't hear someone whispering when we're out in the middle of a noisy city.... that just means "I'm not paying attention to her and I should make more effort to listen..." etc... Yeah right.

People at work even point out another guy who's very smart, very intellectual, but a bit 'different' ; he talks endlessly about very specific interestes of his; and my colleagues say he's soooo aspie. When I mention to them whether they think I am a bit aspie, they all say "no way you're nothing like him, you're just a bit quiet".

That's the thing about being on the spectrum. You're functional enough to appear normal, particularly if you can train yourself to handle socialising or able to fake it really well, but not capable of non-stop chatter about 'this and that' on quickly changing trivial subjects so I tend to switch off after the first 20 minutes and feel exhausted.



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26 Sep 2012, 4:08 am

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My wife doesn't believe it either ; she thinks my aspie traits (including AQ score of 43) were caused by my past very isolated upbringing in total silent household with a single mother who hardly ever spoke, so I never got introduced to the idea of socialising and never had a 'daddy figure' in the family. Oh yes and of course the fact that I can't filter out background noise means I can't hear someone whispering when we're out in the middle of a noisy city.... that just means "I'm not paying attention to her and I should make more effort to listen..." etc... Yeah right.

People at work even point out another guy who's very smart, very intellectual, but a bit 'different' ; he talks endlessly about very specific interestes of his; and my colleagues say he's soooo aspie. When I mention to them whether they think I am a bit aspie, they all say "no way you're nothing like him, you're just a bit quiet".

That's the thing about being on the spectrum. You're functional enough to appear normal, particularly if you can train yourself to handle socialising or able to fake it really well, but not capable of non-stop chatter about 'this and that' on quickly changing trivial subjects so I tend to switch off after the first 20 minutes and feel exhausted.


i totally relate to you here, and yeah i get so exhausted lol



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26 Sep 2012, 5:37 am

Yes, I have been told that I "look too nice" to have Asperger's, and many people are very confused when I tell them of my diagnosis because they like to tell me how well I function in Life (ummm they know 2% about me and a lot of that 2% is what I have learnt over my Life to present to others in short bursts). The rest of the people don't even actually know what Asperger's is...

example:

GIRL: "You don't have Asperger's"
ME: "Um, I have 2 professional diagnoses plus an unofficial one from a woman who has it & is a counsellor of those on the spectrum, and works alongside Tony Attwood, and I completely connect with it all. Do you actually know what Asperger's is?"
GIRL: "No, what is it?"

???!?!?



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26 Sep 2012, 5:58 am

When I was younger, I had a nice social group...don't know how it formed....I played games, I functioned quite normally, the only hint that something was up was my frequent meltdowns.

Nowadays I stim a LOT in public, I still have meltdowns, I never talk, I have no friends, I daydream so much that I'll run into people and run in circles and walk into things.

Most NTs didn't think I was rude or selfish, just repetitive and odd. They would give me nicknames like "Skippy" or talk to me like I'm low functioning.

Most NT's tried to be my friend, but I shut them out....



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26 Sep 2012, 8:19 am

Yeah, it happened to me many times. Once I've met a guy who thought he has aspergers then I told him I think I might have it also. And he kept putting me laughing smileys on messenger and told me "no, maybe you have borderline but not aspergers". And I asked him "why man, I recognise 98% of the symptoms, how could you be so sure when you don't even know me well?". And he said that I look normal and I am not weird. But I think he believed i'm stupid because he was obsessed with Einstein and thought ALL the people with aspergers are very bright and special :roll:
The irony was that he had many friends and has never been bullied and I had none and have been extremely bullied in school.


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26 Sep 2012, 8:21 am

You know, in a lot of ways, I'd consider this a compliment.



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26 Sep 2012, 8:22 am

Australia wrote:
Whenever i tell someone i have aspergers they laugh at me and say ''no you dont mate'' its all in your head. and i ask well why do you think that? and they say ''look at you , your not ret*d''.

Its weird because i think if i was skinny with glasses, firstly i wouldnt have friends, and secondly they would believe me.

I guess todays world is all about appearance. Anyone had similar experiences?


I hear that a lot now (well, the Canadian version of that phrase!) sinc I bulked up a bit and starting presenting myself with more confidence. Most seem to know what Aspergers is but have ridiculous physical stereotypes (i.e. nerds) that simply aren't true. I was recently told flat out I don't have it and when I asked the person why they barely understood what it was. Why the #@% would you say I don't have it if you don't even know what it is?!?

The doctor I recently talked to (and is a very smart man) certainly never doubted me for a second and encouraged me to get it formally diagnosed so it's not all in my head. Again, I told the doctor I suspect diagnosis is just a formality and he didn't dispute that at all.

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My wife doesn't believe it either ; she thinks my aspie traits (including AQ score of 43) were caused by my past very isolated upbringing in total silent household with a single mother who hardly ever spoke, so I never got introduced to the idea of socialising and never had a 'daddy figure' in the family.


My father was away at sea for long periods of time but that doesn't explain why my NT brother (who has the surface Aspie stereotypes) is a highly social extrovert. We are literally total opposites in every way even though we spend the first 20 years of our lives in very close proximity!



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26 Sep 2012, 8:58 am

Australia wrote:
Whenever i tell someone i have aspergers they laugh at me and say ''no you dont mate'' its all in your head. and i ask well why do you think that? and they say ''look at you , your not ret*d''.

My mother doesn't believe me either because she thinks you should look ret*d but she sent me to lots of psychologists and they told me I'm normal lol and almost after each year she asks me if i don't want to visit a psychologist again or a psychiatrist. It became almost boring and FRUSTRATING. I wish I could receive this diagnosis in order to be let alone because it IS my personality and i don't want to take pills for it.


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26 Sep 2012, 9:18 am

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Australia wrote:
Whenever i tell someone i have aspergers they laugh at me and say ''no you dont mate'' its all in your head. and i ask well why do you think that? and they say ''look at you , your not ret*d''.

My mother doesn't believe me either because she thinks you should look ret*d but she sent me to lots of psychologists and they told me I'm normal lol and almost after each year she asks me if i don't want to visit a psychologist again or a psychiatrist. It became almost boring and FRUSTRATING. I wish I could receive this diagnosis in order to be let alone because it IS my personality and i don't want to take pills for it.


Well after i got my diagnosis a week ago my family still doesnt believe i have it and still treat me the same lol. its quite frustrating at times.



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26 Sep 2012, 9:24 am

Australia wrote:
Whenever i tell someone i have aspergers they laugh at me and say ''no you dont mate'' its all in your head. and i ask well why do you think that? and they say ''look at you , your not ret*d''.

Its weird because i think if i was skinny with glasses, firstly i wouldnt have friends, and secondly they would believe me.

I guess todays world is all about appearance. Anyone had similar experiences?


So if you're not 'ret*d' you don't have a condition? the stupidity amazes me.


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26 Sep 2012, 9:38 am

Hehe, this thread is funny to me, because I can relate to so much of it.



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26 Sep 2012, 2:33 pm

Australia wrote:
Whenever i tell someone i have aspergers they laugh at me and say ''no you dont mate'' its all in your head. and i ask well why do you think that? and they say ''look at you , your not ret*d''.


Wow. You must be a very tolerant individual. If anyone said anything so unbelievably offensive to me, I'd give them an extremely hard time over it.

I wonder how an NT would react if we began saying things like "No, you can't be an NT! You aren't an ignorant, pretentious, insecure, stupid, insincere and intolerant biggot!"

There should be more strict laws on hate speech. People should be punished for saying these things, regardless of whether or not they were intentionally offensive.


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