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SteelMaiden
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30 Sep 2012, 9:15 am

See:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_complex_developmental_disorder

I have diagnosed schizophrenia, Asperger's and OCD.

Looking at MCDD, although it isn't an ICD-10/DSM-IV diagnosis, I feel that I fall into this category.

What do you think? Do you believe this exists?


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30 Sep 2012, 9:28 am

A single label for someone, whom as a child, has many symptoms that cross various conditions.

Seems like it'd work.

I'd probably fall into it too with my history and labels (same as yours; though mine is Childhood Schizophrenia due to when the positive symptoms started, which was as a child).



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30 Sep 2012, 9:40 am

I started the prodromal phase of schizophrenia when I was 12, but I had quite severe behavioural problems when I was a child, and I was violent. I was diagnosed with AS when I was 16 though. To be honest my schizophrenia is more disabling than my autism.

Today my Dad made me realise that I don't spend 60+ hours in my bedroom at a time because of my autism, I spend it there because I am too paranoid to leave the house and my motivation is crap. I can sit in front of my laptop all day. But when my motivation comes back, I go to the gym. So it varies.

Schizophrenia explains why my curtains are closed and minimal lights on during some days; my Dad also made me consider that people are not recording my every move from across the road with cameras, even if I see the cameras.


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30 Sep 2012, 10:22 am

If it can be explained by the autism/schizophrenia combination, I don't see why we really need the diagnosis. After all, both autism and schizophrenia are quite common; about one in a hundred autistics will get schizophrenia too, just by the odds, and possibly more because autism increases stress and stress is a risk factor for getting schizophrenia if you're genetically vulnerable to it.

If on the other hand there's something special about this particular group of symptoms, if it can be differentiated from an autistic person with schizophrenia, then it might make sense to define it as a separate entity. Me--I just think we need more study on it.


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30 Sep 2012, 10:39 am

Callista wrote:
If it can be explained by the autism/schizophrenia combination, I don't see why we really need the diagnosis.


I read that McDD is still different from "normal" schizophrenia, because he schizophrenic symptoms allready start in childhood are more constant through life. So it's a bit more like schizotypal PD though, just more extrem.

I believe I have some McDD traits, but they are not strong enough at all and are better explaint by schizotypal PD and even that not that extreme, but propably enough to get that lable, I'm not sure, but I have deffinitly traits.


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30 Sep 2012, 11:05 am

Raziel wrote:
Callista wrote:
If it can be explained by the autism/schizophrenia combination, I don't see why we really need the diagnosis.


I read that McDD is still different from "normal" schizophrenia, because he schizophrenic symptoms allready start in childhood are more constant through life. So it's a bit more like schizotypal PD though, just more extrem.


I know someone who I believe has MCDD, and this persons schizophrenic symptoms did start in childhood. This person that I know seems to be the perfect combination of schizophrenia (some variant of it), autism and narcissism. Interestingly enough, MCDD is the first documented mental disorder that I've come across that combines autism and narcissism, whereas a lot of people believe that they cannot be co-morbid.