Why do some find the term "Neuroypical" offensive?

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16 Oct 2012, 2:28 pm

I have never understood why some view the term as being offensive.

I've seen many people on this site state that they are uncomfortable with it, without providing any logical reasons for being so.

I've even heard it being described as "dehumanizing". Seriously? Interestingly, the same people have no qualms about calling someone Autistic.

So, why is it that "Neurotypical" is sometimes viewed as an offensive term? It seems to me that those people are simply creating unnecessary drama over an accurate and widely accepted term.


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16 Oct 2012, 2:31 pm

People often use it in a derogatory way.
It creates an us and them way of thinking

It's not a bad term and it's useful, just often misused.



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16 Oct 2012, 2:32 pm

There will always be someone who is offended by a label/phrase/word.



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16 Oct 2012, 2:36 pm

Turn it around. How would you feel being called "Aspietypical" or "Typical Aspie" every time you did something they didn't like?

"Neurotypical" may be over-used, if not mis-used completely.


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16 Oct 2012, 2:36 pm

mljt wrote:
There will always be someone who is offended by a label/phrase/word.


Well, who wants to be labeled anyway?



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16 Oct 2012, 3:01 pm

Fnord wrote:
Turn it around. How would you feel being called "Aspietypical" or "Typical Aspie" every time you did something they didn't like?

"Neurotypical" may be over-used, if not mis-used completely.


I admit that it is often misused, but when used correctly, I don't see why it's sometimes still considered offensive.
jonny23 wrote:
Well, who wants to be labeled anyway?


I don't mind being called Autistic or an Aspie, in fact, I think that a distinction is necessary, given that people on the spectrum think in a very different way to Neurotypicals.


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16 Oct 2012, 4:38 pm

Most people seem to put an emphasis on their differences, so "typical" goes against how they want to be seen. But then, everyone's trying to fit in with one another as well, so I guess there has to be a balance somewhere? Neurosingularpenetypicality?



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16 Oct 2012, 4:38 pm

Some people use it in a derogatory way.


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16 Oct 2012, 5:01 pm

Curiotical wrote:
jonny23 wrote:
Well, who wants to be labeled anyway?


I don't mind being called Autistic or an Aspie, in fact, I think that a distinction is necessary, given that people on the spectrum think in a very different way to Neurotypicals.


Labels are good to quantify something and help you understand it but labeling people is bad. You are not aspergers or neurotypical you are you and aspergers or what ever might be part of you but it's not your definition.



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16 Oct 2012, 5:20 pm

It's offensive to me because it's too nice.



I could also refer to them as "sponges" for being full of whatever they get dipped in at any given moment.


Funny thing is that the NTs will be offended by any label that has the word typical in it, WHILE at the same time, doing everything to fit in and go along to maintain their precious socialization.

Everybody wants to be oh so special.



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16 Oct 2012, 5:30 pm

People like to be and feel unique.

"Typical" is pejorative to most.



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16 Oct 2012, 5:35 pm

My nicest term is "standard issued human" mostly I see them as humans and myself as none standard human. But also NTs. I think maybe we should be a different species of human. But it is bad in a way to label all NTs as such and same with us.



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16 Oct 2012, 6:40 pm

I don't find any offense in the word. I see it as another label humans create to further segment themselves. Labels are problematic as well as useful. Labels help people find similar minds while keeping them segregated. It's another attempt to give structure to the mess that is the universe. Just go with it I say.



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16 Oct 2012, 7:01 pm

This is a forum set up by a person on the Autism spectrum.
This forum is mostly used by people on the spectrum.

I know how I have been treated by so called normal people all my life.

If they don't like NT we could use the term sheeple drones or better still show them the same regard they have shown us which is none.



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16 Oct 2012, 7:40 pm

To be honest, I have never heard anyone say they were offended by it or felt uncomfortable with it.

I do agree, though, that many use it in a pejorative way. And I don't like it when people say things like "neurotypicals always...." No one group of people always anything. Not unless you are talking about physical characteristics, and even then it is rare that an entire group of people always share one physical characteristic without exception. No one likes to be lumped into a big giant mass of indistinguishable nothingness. We are all unique, regardless of our neurological makeup.

I guess it is the same as almost any label. When it is used appropriately, it is not problematic, but when it is used to denigrate or segregate someone, it is.


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16 Oct 2012, 7:57 pm

InThisTogether wrote:
To be honest, I have never heard anyone say they were offended by it or felt uncomfortable with it.

I do agree, though, that many use it in a pejorative way. And I don't like it when people say things like "neurotypicals always...." No one group of people always anything. Not unless you are talking about physical characteristics, and even then it is rare that an entire group of people always share one physical characteristic without exception. No one likes to be lumped into a big giant mass of indistinguishable nothingness. We are all unique, regardless of our neurological makeup.

I guess it is the same as almost any label. When it is used appropriately, it is not problematic, but when it is used to denigrate or segregate someone, it is.


Yes but are we the ones that have faced denigration and segregation all our lives because we could not fit in as we were not typical?

Males talking about sport and cars all the time.
Saying these people lack some individuality and free thinking seems to me a fair label.

People may not like the term or find it offensive but it fits.