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MissMoneypenny
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07 Nov 2012, 7:44 am

What moral judgements have people made on your character, due to things that were actually spectrum behaviours/traits?



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07 Nov 2012, 7:58 am

"You are selfish, stubborn and lazy."

Oh yeah, and I'm judgmental too. How's that for irony? :roll:


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07 Nov 2012, 8:24 am

Oh, let's see....

Bad Eye Contact

-Rude
-Self centered
- Uncaring
-Inconsiderate

Sensitivity to Noise

- Judgmental
-Hypocritical
- Insensitive


Need for routine

-Lazy
-Procrastinator
- "Sick"

Restrictive Interests

- "Boring"
- Uncultured
- Flawed

Inability to read social situations

-Untrustworthy
- Low
-"Stalker"
-Insecure
-Two-faced
-Annoying
-Cold
-Aloof


I probably have more. They happen every day. Yesterday I was told that I couldn't help stalking people.

Half of those came from my parents who didn't realize I was autistic.
Yeah, kinda bitter. Sorry :oops:



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07 Nov 2012, 8:54 am

"You should go for your husband's sake" (to a huge funeral after-gathering full of people I do not know for someone who was not 'close')

... that sort of thing comes up a lot. My husband and I have a prearrangement on this sort of thing, but it does not stop people from badgering me about it.



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07 Nov 2012, 9:28 am

I don't drive because I'm lazy and like being taxied around. (I don't, I get the train or walk and I'm only in my husband's car if we're going somewhere together. I don't drive because of sensory and concentration issues.)
I don't work in the field of my degree because I didn't try hard enough to get a job. (I left uni without an honours degree, due to social anxiety, so a job in that field is unattainable).
I don't work because I like being a 'lady of leisure'. (If I worked, it would be for money that I don't actually need. I have simple needs and more luxury goods are less appealing than the life I have just now. I clean during the day and I'm here for my family, when they come home.)
I put off making that phonecall on their behalf (i.e. my parents) because I'm not being helpful. (I have phone anxiety, don't always understand what's being said to me and have difficulty being assertive.)
I'm not interested in what's going on in their lives. (I'm missing info on what's been going on with them and don't know what to ask.)


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07 Nov 2012, 5:01 pm

I don't tend to think about it.
Moral people are simple-minded, and those who make moral judgements of me are irrelevant.



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07 Nov 2012, 6:04 pm

People think I am shy or don't care or not into what they are saying. I do agree I am shy but people can just assume I am shy based on me being quiet because I have nothing to say or have no interest in interacting. My husband has thought I didn't appreciate the flowers when he got me some one time because I told him to put them on the table in the vase. So he doesn't get me any anymore and gives me candy instead because apparently I respond appropriately in the situation like women would with flowers. So he says I appreciate him when he gets me candy and that is the only way he can show he appreciates me.

I had one guy I knew who always thought I was judgmental or secretive because I always asked questions and I didn't talk enough for him when I answer him.


I am sure there are more but this is all I can think of.


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07 Nov 2012, 6:17 pm

I have found this ironic as i see passing judgment on people as immoral.



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07 Nov 2012, 7:36 pm

MEAN

My parents raised me since I remember to believe that I was born mean. They kept claiming it until they got old and extremely sick, my siblings abandoned them and didn't even let them see the grandchildren, plus stole their savings for old age which they'd saved with great sacrifice all their lives. And I took care of them till the last day.

The autism traits they called me mean for were:
Hyper focus, e.g. not responding when called
Lack of eye contact
Unconventionality / non herd mentality / more attuned to self than group
Fine motor skills clumsiness
Impaired reciprocity
Lack of Theory of Mind
Lack of social intuition / empathy / tact / saying the emperor is nude
Blindness to hidden agendas and anything not stated in words


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08 Nov 2012, 12:22 am

While I've been accused of appearing to be a stalker, creepy, "mental" and other pejoratives, that all becomes offset by "genius", "hard worker", "honest", "deep", "dependable". "gifted" and other attributes. I suppose their impressions are formed in relation to other people they knew before me; I had 1 client who remarked on how calm I was during a dispute with a third party who performed inadequately. I was almost laughing directly at him while my customer was highly agitated.


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08 Nov 2012, 4:27 am

Magnanimous wrote:
I don't tend to think about it.
Moral people are simple-minded, and those who make moral judgements of me are irrelevant.


I disagree. It takes enormous strength of character to try and live by a moral code for the very fact that the majority are doing the very opposite. It's easy to take the path of least resistance and do what everyone else is doing - which is often nothing when a person needs help or a situation immoral.

Morality is what holds society together.

I make moral judgements on myself all the time as I know I could do a lot better.



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08 Nov 2012, 4:34 am

nessa238 wrote:
Morality is what holds society together.


Unfortunately, this is very true. Society would be so wonderful if what held us together was true feelings for one another. Until humans come out of the caves and learn better, morality will have to do.


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08 Nov 2012, 4:42 am

Moondust wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
Morality is what holds society together.


Unfortunately, this is very true. Society would be so wonderful if what held us together was true feelings for one another. Until humans come out of the caves and learn better, morality will have to do.


In my opinion it's the fact that an increasing number of people are no longer living their lives according to a moral code that is why society is getting worse. The church played a major role in introducing a moral code but obviously had/has great trouble abiding by its own rules but it still assisted humanity a lot in my opinion as there were at least rules. Without any rules what have you got? 'Thou shalt not kill' goes out the window for a start - the non-moral people should ask themselves how they'd persuade people to stop murdering each other. As it is we still need a police force to back up the moral code!



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08 Nov 2012, 8:39 am

That's the disadvantage of morality - that it doesn't come spontaneously and naturally, so it often fails. It's the best we've got so far, but when in a distant future it's replaced by the deep conviction that mutual consideration is in everyone's best interest, society will be a pleasure to belong to. Humans haven't attained yet enough enlightenment to internalize that if we all pee in the pool, we all drink pee.


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08 Nov 2012, 12:53 pm

Moondust wrote:
That's the disadvantage of morality - that it doesn't come spontaneously and naturally, so it often fails. It's the best we've got so far, but when in a distant future it's replaced by the deep conviction that mutual consideration is in everyone's best interest, society will be a pleasure to belong to. Humans haven't attained yet enough enlightenment to internalize that if we all pee in the pool, we all drink pee.


I don't think the human race will live that long.



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08 Nov 2012, 2:09 pm

Well, I've been considered:
-Rude, because I say things that others consider rude (but, after I found out I did, I apologize);
-Self-centered;
-Mean;
-Lazy.


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