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01 Nov 2012, 12:21 pm

This might be a bit weird?

I do not think in pictures, I think in thoughts. I do not know if this matters?

Normally I can control my thoughts to a certain degree (well it is a very long explanation, I do not going into details here) but when I am tired it is different.

When I am tired it is as if my thoughts get mixed up and some of the more subconscious thoughts pop up and pretend to be the reality (confused - just read on :wink: ).

When I am tired I get these flashes of another reality (very very short flashes) as if I am another place or time or it is dark (if it daylight in reality). Stuff like that, it feels very real but lasts a very short time.

I guess it sounds sort of creepy and scizo? I only put words to this feeling today and do not know if it is common around here?

It is pretty hard to explain but it feels very real.

Can anybody relate?


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01 Nov 2012, 12:44 pm

I experience something similar. When I need sleep the result is similar to being drunk. Also, when I am getting sick, the first sign of impending illness is my thinking is all off and feels very unpleasant.


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01 Nov 2012, 3:37 pm

I relate to this. I have a cold and was feeling fine, but I sat down for a coffee today, with a friend and my parents, and I started to feel a bit weird. My cold is obviously getting to me and causing the tiredness. For a few very short periods, I thought I wasn't really there and think I said a few things I wouldn't normally talk about (like I'd had a few drinks).


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01 Nov 2012, 3:48 pm

If you're very tired, I guess it is normal. Yes, it happened to me also.

I don't understand the part with "I do not think in pictures"... do you have dreams at night?


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01 Nov 2012, 4:22 pm

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If you're very tired, I guess it is normal. Yes, it happened to me also.

I don't understand the part with "I do not think in pictures"... do you have dreams at night?


Well yes, I don´t think it has anything to do with it.

I do not think in pictures. This is probably not important in this context? It is apparently also not normal around Autistic people (or other people). I have nothing but blackness in my head

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Interesting Even if I was asked to think about a cat, there is no real picture. More like the ideal picture of a cat. I think of the Allegory of the Cave by Plato. it is not a real picture more a shadow of the ideal shape of cat, except it is mainly thoughts. Then if asked about different races of cats, I have them all lined up in some sort of filing system to take out and KNOW what they are like, not real pictures. Difficult to explain. Maybe it is best described as living in eternal twilight? But that dosn´t sound nice, it is not really that bad living in the land of thoughts
from this thread http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp4618435.html&highlight=
Someone here on WP described it as a 4-kernet processor (might fit?)

I have dreams at night. They can be extreeeeemely scary (nasty nightmares where I have to get up and turn the lights on and stay awake for a while). I think that the reason that my dreams are so livid is that I dream in pictures but during normal daily thought activity I have no pictures in my head!


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01 Nov 2012, 4:31 pm

I do not think that it is entirely normal to be so much out of your head that you think the reality is different!

I do not think that this is NT behaviour


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01 Nov 2012, 4:32 pm

I think primarily in pictures, and when I get tired my thinking does get distorted. I know that when these thoughts happen that I have gone far too long without any sleep - but the only way I was able to sleep was to stay awake until I was that tired.



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01 Nov 2012, 4:48 pm

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I think primarily in pictures, and when I get tired my thinking does get distorted. I know that when these thoughts happen that I have gone far too long without any sleep - but the only way I was able to sleep was to stay awake until I was that tired.


I definitely get what you are saying. About the getting tired and having to sleep.

I also get theese "flashes" when I am mentally tired. I do not have to be physically tired. Not always, just sometimes. It can be pretty weird.


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01 Nov 2012, 4:59 pm

Might be Derealization



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01 Nov 2012, 5:03 pm

Sanctus wrote:
Might be Derealization


Ach, bloody hell, you do not need to give me more diagnosis :lol:


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01 Nov 2012, 5:11 pm

helles wrote:
Quote from a former post
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Interesting Even if I was asked to think about a cat, there is no real picture. More like the ideal picture of a cat. I think of the Allegory of the Cave by Plato. it is not a real picture more a shadow of the ideal shape of cat, except it is mainly thoughts. Then if asked about different races of cats, I have them all lined up in some sort of filing system to take out and KNOW what they are like, not real pictures. Difficult to explain. Maybe it is best described as living in eternal twilight? But that dosn´t sound nice, it is not really that bad living in the land of thoughts
from this thread http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp4618435.html&highlight=
Someone here on WP described it as a 4-kernet processor (might fit?)

I have dreams at night. They can be extreeeeemely scary (nasty nightmares where I have to get up and turn the lights on and stay awake for a while). I think that the reason that my dreams are so livid is that I dream in pictures but during normal daily thought activity I have no pictures in my head!


I think you're not aware that you think in pictures. But it might be possible if I think about blind people. Anyway, it sounds strange to me as my imagination is very rich and I can't make associations and think logically without 'pictures' or memories of what I have seen. Even a word or a touch carries a picture or a shape with it. I asked you about dreams because I've heard of people who have no dreams (or maybe they don't recall anything?) and I was thinking maybe their brains are different.

Maybe what you experience could be a weak form of hypnagogic hallucination?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2660156/ (skip to Sleep disturbances)


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01 Nov 2012, 5:17 pm

Sanctus wrote:
Might be Derealization


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Derealization (sometimes abbreviated as DR) is an alteration in the perception or experience of the external world so that it seems unreal. Other symptoms include feeling as though one's environment is lacking in spontaneity, emotional coloring and depth.[1] ....


Derealization is a subjective experience of unreality of the outside world, while depersonalization is unreality in one's sense of self.

I do not think that it it is Derealization as such because it is very short bursts of un-reality! But it might be related.


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01 Nov 2012, 5:43 pm

AnotherKind wrote:
I think you're not aware that you think in pictures. But it might be possible if I think about blind people. Anyway, it sounds strange to me as my imagination is very rich and I can't make associations and think logically without 'pictures' or memories of what I have seen. Even a word or a touch carries a picture or a shape with it. I asked you about dreams because I've heard of people who have no dreams (or maybe they don't recall anything?) and I was thinking maybe their brains are different.

Maybe what you experience could be a weak form of hypnagogic hallucination?
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2660156/ (skip to Sleep disturbances)


Some (few) of us do not think in pictures. I know that some people think more in subtexts. BUt I only think in black. I know that it is very different from most of you!

hypnagogic hallucination sound scary!! I have just been accoustumed to AS some months ago :-)


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