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Filipendula
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30 Oct 2012, 7:43 pm

I just wondered if this is possible?

Are there people out there who are on the spectrum, but who maybe

-don't have constant sensory issues complicating things for them or
-who don't have meltdowns/shutdowns or
-who don't feel a need to control the environment as a means of avoiding stress
etc.?

I know there will be people for each of these, but I'm wondering if there are those who have a general 'stress-free' pattern in life but who still have noticeable problems eg. with holding conversations. Maybe some people have managed to avoid things like bullying simply by adopting a "who cares" persona with regards to social conventions and such like? I'm just curious.


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30 Oct 2012, 7:46 pm

I have sorta, but I end up freaking out everyone around me which is where it stops.



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30 Oct 2012, 8:18 pm

Filipendula wrote:
I just wondered if this is possible?

Are there people out there who are on the spectrum, but who maybe

-don't have constant sensory issues complicating things for them or
-who don't have meltdowns/shutdowns or
-who don't feel a need to control the environment as a means of avoiding stress
etc.?

I know there will be people for each of these, but I'm wondering if there are those who have a general 'stress-free' pattern in life but who still have noticeable problems eg. with holding conversations. Maybe some people have managed to avoid things like bullying simply by adopting a "who cares" persona with regards to social conventions and such like? I'm just curious.


yes it is. Now im in sort of worse shape and id have quite often meltdowns but otherwise very seldom. Not so many sensory issues. Again worse when down. dont control much just forget a lot

But no not anxiety free. Just as a kid



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30 Oct 2012, 11:47 pm

I think it is possible, I`ve experienced something like it a few times.



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31 Oct 2012, 12:50 am

Probably a healthy eating hard working outdoor aspie, maybe a sports star on $$$$ or a freak wizz business prodigy

Lots I'd say. Anxiety or dis ease is often because of other people



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31 Oct 2012, 12:58 am

The condition of AS leads to unfulfillment, unfulfillment leads to anxiety, depression, and other kinds of "neurosis". As another said, it helps if you are rich or busy.


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31 Oct 2012, 8:35 am

Filipendula wrote:
I just wondered if this is possible?

Are there people out there who are on the spectrum, but who maybe

-don't have constant sensory issues complicating things for them or
-who don't have meltdowns/shutdowns or
-who don't feel a need to control the environment as a means of avoiding stress
etc.?

I know there will be people for each of these, but I'm wondering if there are those who have a general 'stress-free' pattern in life but who still have noticeable problems eg. with holding conversations. Maybe some people have managed to avoid things like bullying simply by adopting a "who cares" persona with regards to social conventions and such like? I'm just curious.


The who cares attitude did seem to assist me in avoiding some bullies. Until they start picking on me because I don't care enough. That they will get me to become normal like them if I just walk it off or toughen up.



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31 Oct 2012, 8:48 am

I think those who are either oblivious or who just don't care could live lives free from anxiety. Or the older people who have given up caring or worrying, because they've realised it gets you nowhere. I think I'm on the cusp of giving up on caring what others think. I'm unfulfilled, but I have a new found determination to just keep at it. I'll get there or die trying. But, no, I'm not anxiety free, just hope to be.


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31 Oct 2012, 12:21 pm

I think giving up the fight
Taking a deep breath
Seeing your gonad driven existence
For what it is
Is one of the best parts

Eastern spiritualists sublimate the sexual urge via transmutation of desire along the chakras upward into the heart and mind..............
Other cultures dance and swell the life force within the loins[lions??]
I flash my mating colours upon the surface of a sea wave

Stoner aspies prolly experience very low anxiety levels, as expected from a pharmacological view of the herb cannabis. The low toxicity, also creates less anxiety. The low side effects[well thats debatable] also do not promote anxiety
Losing sunglasses, losing grades and girlfriends can create anxiety, so its not all plain sailing on cannabis

Burt Munroe was a happy old coot who lived alone in a garage with his Indian Motorcycles, travelled from NZ to Bonneville every year [starting in his 60's!!] and set world records thru his 70's. Living and travelling alone aspie was so likeable others warmed to him and his ways.

Many many happy hidden away low anxiety aspies.
Being self secure/confident/healthy is the key
Country home, vege garden, animals, night sky full of stars! night swimming



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31 Oct 2012, 12:54 pm

...yes. I'm a pretty happy camper.

Stuff that helps:
1. Being born towards the emotionally muted end of the spectrum. (it must suck to have lots of emotions...)
2. Accepting, at least close to the spectrum, family. (oh, so restful)
3. Feynman: What do you care what other people think? (really...people don't matter that much)
4. Just accepting that you're different and planning around it (memorize a few cues, exclude unsafe topics, stop trying to read faces, set boundaries on the amount of interaction you do, just don't go places that involve sensory issues (admittedly, depends on the level of sensory issues...but not giving a s*t helps a lot.))
5. Choosing an occupation that doesn't demand a ton of personal contact. (ah, laboratories...)
6. Screening your friends - if they need coherent conversations, they won't be your friends. (friends need to make your life better...watching every word is more trouble than they're worth.)
7. Believing that other people care very little about you. (seriously, even if they care, s'not like I can do much about it. Some will speak up - others will get really angry and make things clear - I deal with things then.)
8. Not trying to be someone you're not. (There's lots of things I'll never do competently. Oh well.)
9. Not caring too much. (Really, the worst case outcome involves dying horribly. But, you're going to die anyways. So...why worry...it won't improve your life.)

Btw, high school just sucks. Nasty little NTs practicing social warfare. Either work out a lot or spend time in the library. It gets better.

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31 Oct 2012, 4:18 pm

If you learn to cope with or disrupt the anxiety you experience, you'll experience less anxiety. Otherwise, anxiety becomes a vicious cycle. This is true whether or not you have autism.

argyle wrote:
...yes. I'm a pretty happy camper.

Stuff that helps:
1. Being born towards the emotionally muted end of the spectrum. (it must suck to have lots of emotions...)
2. Accepting, at least close to the spectrum, family. (oh, so restful)
3. Feynman: What do you care what other people think? (really...people don't matter that much)
4. Just accepting that you're different and planning around it (memorize a few cues, exclude unsafe topics, stop trying to read faces, set boundaries on the amount of interaction you do, just don't go places that involve sensory issues (admittedly, depends on the level of sensory issues...but not giving a s*t helps a lot.))
5. Choosing an occupation that doesn't demand a ton of personal contact. (ah, laboratories...)
6. Screening your friends - if they need coherent conversations, they won't be your friends. (friends need to make your life better...watching every word is more trouble than they're worth.)
7. Believing that other people care very little about you. (seriously, even if they care, s'not like I can do much about it. Some will speak up - others will get really angry and make things clear - I deal with things then.)
8. Not trying to be someone you're not. (There's lots of things I'll never do competently. Oh well.)
9. Not caring too much. (Really, the worst case outcome involves dying horribly. But, you're going to die anyways. So...why worry...it won't improve your life.)

Btw, high school just sucks. Nasty little NTs practicing social warfare. Either work out a lot or spend time in the library. It gets better.

--Argyle


Everything you said helps to make things better, but unfortunately, there's a lot of people who have to deal with bullying their whole lives.


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31 Oct 2012, 8:40 pm

Strategies for bullies are important to learn
My latest bully just got his name on a police report
And a warning from his employer

I'm eyeing up this horrible [very extremely NT]woman
who works in a store
One more bullying event from her
And a complaint to her boss will be laid

We are not powerless
Instead of getting anxious
Get even
Take out the bully legally



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04 Nov 2012, 11:21 am

blackelk wrote:
The condition of AS leads to unfulfillment, unfulfillment leads to anxiety, depression, and other kinds of "neurosis". As another said, it helps if you are rich or busy.


hmmm, hypersensitivity leads to anxiety, which leads to feeling of unfulfillment, depression.