What is a sure sign of autism

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20 Nov 2012, 3:22 am

Say one hasn't change their clothes in a VERY long time. Would that count? What do you think?

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20 Nov 2012, 3:39 am

No, depression or schizophrenia can also cause a decline in self-care/appearance/hygiene.

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20 Nov 2012, 3:57 am

There's no single symptom sufficient for a diagnosis of autism spectrum disorder.

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20 Nov 2012, 4:14 am

Ask her how he feels about trains :lol:

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20 Nov 2012, 4:20 am

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Ask her how he feels about trains :lol:

Allow them to overhear you mis-describing 11-dimentional string theory and wait to see if they are compelled to correct you. If you are still waiting to get a word in 30 minutes later - it's probably a good bet.

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20 Nov 2012, 11:06 am

Ask me about reptiles. :wink:

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20 Nov 2012, 11:21 am

You can't just look for just one sign in a person to be able to detect an ASD because everybody's different. This is what I learned today at a training course for my job, is that no two people are identical, and he was talking about the anybody. So you can't just see a toddler being shy near other kids and throwing a diagnosis of Autism at them. Even if they were flapping or doing some sort of repetitive behaviour. These common traits listed down on the Autistic diagnosis criteria need to be taken to an extreme, to be observed and assessed. I was terrible on my first day of school; I pulled the teacher's hair, hit other children, hid under the tables, et cetera, but it still took 4 years for proffessionalists to diagnose me with AS. They knew there was something wrong by my sudden behaviour but they still had to do assessments, and didn't even suspect AS until about 2 or 3 years later.

Any mental disabilities aren't a case of all or nothing. You cannot get an Aspie person with every single trait listed down, and you cann't get an NT person with no AS traits listed down. Every NT I have met (and I have met a lot in my life) all have one or two of the common Aspie traits, which does not make them anywhere near Aspie and are still perfect examples of NTs. It's common sense. I met an NT today on my training course who hates her feet being touched, and she said she gets very funny about it. I met an NT a few weeks ago who feels insecure if her routine is changed. My best friend is an NT and she is very messy and disorganised, and also hates loud noises. My cousin is NT but couldn't get on with her job as a waitress in a busy restaurant because she felt unconfident with the customers, and said that she felt it was a bit overwhelming.

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20 Nov 2012, 11:24 am

Consult the DSM IV...

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20 Nov 2012, 2:16 pm

The only absolutely "sure" sign of autism is a perfectly symmetrical face.

Other than that you have to go by the DSM. :wink:

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20 Nov 2012, 11:11 pm

IsItAsd wrote:

Say one hasn't change their clothes in a VERY long time. Would that count? What do you think?

I think the majority of people on the spectrum change their clothes before a "VERY long time" has passed.

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21 Nov 2012, 4:12 am

littlelily613 wrote:

IsItAsd wrote:

Say one hasn't change their clothes in a VERY long time. Would that count? What do you think?

I think the majority of people on the spectrum change their clothes before a "VERY long time" has passed.

meaning?

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21 Nov 2012, 7:01 am

I would take that to mean that they don't leave it a long time before they change their clothes.

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21 Nov 2012, 7:28 am

IsItAsd wrote:

littlelily613 wrote:

IsItAsd wrote:

Say one hasn't change their clothes in a VERY long time. Would that count? What do you think?

I think the majority of people on the spectrum change their clothes before a "VERY long time" has passed.

meaning?

Meaning that most of us change our clothes as often as NTs do :wink:

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21 Nov 2012, 8:09 am

IsItAsd wrote:

littlelily613 wrote:

IsItAsd wrote:

Say one hasn't change their clothes in a VERY long time. Would that count? What do you think?

I think the majority of people on the spectrum change their clothes before a "VERY long time" has passed.

meaning?

Meaning precisely what it says. It is not an ambiguous statement.

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21 Nov 2012, 9:40 am

MrXxx wrote:

The only absolutely "sure" sign of autism is a perfectly symmetrical face. :

Hmmn, I know the studies you're referring to, but is it definite that NTs can't have a perfectly symmetrical face too? Look at all these perfect looking models for instance. Saying that it was found that a high percentage - even all - autistic children studied, had perfectly symmetrical faces isn't necessarily the same as saying non-autistics can't also have them - is it? If so, this can't then be an absolutely sure sign. (Were the studies large scale enough too?)

I'm also not entirely convinced about the facial characteristics that are supposedly a sign, both my daughters have different faces but both have the traits of ASD, paediatrician confirms autistic behaviours in my youngest and both are shortly going through AS assessments. I have AS, my eldest has a face more like mine, my youngest has a face more like her dad's (NT) but she seems a little more severely on the spectrum than her sister.

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21 Nov 2012, 9:52 am

Joe90 wrote:

WELL SAID

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