ways of thinking
I know there were a couple threads of "ways of thinking" in the past.
I am in the first place visually thinking, but now I have discovered, that I think "visual-relational", by which I mean that if I think about a tree, in my mind I very quickly touch the bark as I did as a child and see the details in structure and remember the feeling touching it and it is not pure "visually" anymore, but also kinesthetic and in relation to the object.
Saying I am only visually thinking is wrong.
But I have trouble thinking verbally.
I know that people can think "I make a cup of tea now", but this kind of verbal thought-process I do not have.
I "see" from the perspective of the place where I take my tea the parts of the room I can see from the place where I sit to drink the tea, feel the hot cup and look into it and see the tea in the cup.
This will make me eventually make a cup of tea.
I know other people can think it in words and follow the words in their head.
I would like to know from people who cannot think in pictures at all how you think, because I cannot imaging thinking without pictures.
And from anyone in how far your thinking translates into "kinesthetic/ relational thinking".
edit: any way of thinking is welcome to discuss as well, but please when it is not visual explain how it is working in your mind.
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English is not my native language, so I will very likely do mistakes in writing or understanding. My edits are due to corrections of mistakes, which I sometimes recognize just after submitting a text.
I have also read that people think in patterns, concepts, verbally, musically and many more.
But do you form accompanying pictures in your mind?
I do not really understand thinking in "patterns" and in "concepts".
I can see visual patterns and I form visual concepts, but I cannot imagine it in an "abstract" way meaning without pictures.
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English is not my native language, so I will very likely do mistakes in writing or understanding. My edits are due to corrections of mistakes, which I sometimes recognize just after submitting a text.
Can you WRITE what you are thinking and by this process create a picture you can describe or draw a picture and write the words which describe it, thereby translating it via the kinestheic method? I am sincerely curious about whether you've tried this and whether it has or would work for you.
When I adress like a forum I can write down thoughts as I do it now.
I cannot form it in a way of "communicatiog with myself", then it is like impossible to think verbally.
And this writing now is the moment in which I am writing.
When I do not write anymore, I can continue "communicating" as if I was writing, but it needs to be directioned.
And then I "see" the process of writing, meaning the letters appearing on the screen.
I am not sure if I truly answered your question.
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English is not my native language, so I will very likely do mistakes in writing or understanding. My edits are due to corrections of mistakes, which I sometimes recognize just after submitting a text.
I have a lot of related processes occurring in my mind all at once. I am Aspie with ADHD co-morbid. US English is my native language. I cross-reference in strange ways, due to having Synesthesia. I associate numbers and musical notes with colors and very often there are images and fleeting emotions. In exchange for this, my sense of direction is terrible and I have a compass in my car and must orient myself to North and true North whenever I visit a new place, or risk becoming absurdly lost and very panic-stricken about it. Music is ALWAYS in my head. I dislike the noise of people talking on telephones or radio DJ or television -- this shatters what might laughingly be called "my concentration". I see multiple images that are unrelated: an apple, a harp, clouds moving over mountains. When I was testing software for a large corporation, I worked cross-platform in at least three applications and typically in five languages with a minimum of seven different computers running simultaneously -- this was usual.
When I am working on a project outdoors, I am often conversing with what I believe are rocks and sticks and so on, only to sometimes learn that in fact the spot where I am working was a favorite place of someone who died not long ago. People will ask me "how did that place make you feel?" And I tell them "I felt a curious happiness come over me. Although the day was overcast, it felt as if the sun was shining. I felt a great sense of well-being." And then they tell me: "this was my husband's favorite place. He loved spending time here." This does not frighten me. In fact, I feel it is like being given a very special gift. I hear music in the wind and fragments of voices and sounds of machinery and voices of birds and other animals and all of these conjure images and sometimes words. Often I'll begin to sing a song that pops into my head or find a design in the landscape and begin to sculpt along a line or curve which suddenly appears in my mind's eye. I also spontaneously invent songs, typically with an object like a rubber band or bottle cap when I'm in the presence of cats and dogs. Many people don't quite know what to think of this --- it is not easy to get used to my sudden performances! -- kind people with intelligence usually come to love me as unique and interesting and funny (because they are, too).
I realize I am a very complex person and yet I think of myself as very simple and even childlike. I hope I've not totally confused you!
It is as though there is so MUCH information that I cannot get "stuck" and unable to see in some direction.
I think visually and in concepts. A concept is hard to describe but I'll try. When you think of a cup of tea, in your mind you can see the cup of tea on a table and the room in the background, but there are also other things associated with this scene. For instance, all the types of tea you like and everything you know about tea and teacups etc. but you don't see all these things at once, they are part of a network of connections in your mind and that network of connections is a concept that you understand without having to visualize everything at the same time. As you explore the concept in your mind you can visualize the different aspects of it and you can form new ideas and concepts by making more connections.
To me, that is what a concept is and a concept can be like a pattern. It's not linear, It is all there at once, so it is difficult to put into words. Language is linear and I can not think that way, but there can be music and sound in my thoughts.
I am in the first place visually thinking, but now I have discovered, that I think "visual-relational", by which I mean that if I think about a tree, in my mind I very quickly touch the bark as I did as a child and see the details in structure and remember the feeling touching it and it is not pure "visually" anymore, but also kinesthetic and in relation to the object.
Saying I am only visually thinking is wrong.
But I have trouble thinking verbally.
I know that people can think "I make a cup of tea now", but this kind of verbal thought-process I do not have.
I "see" from the perspective of the place where I take my tea the parts of the room I can see from the place where I sit to drink the tea, feel the hot cup and look into it and see the tea in the cup.
This will make me eventually make a cup of tea.
I know other people can think it in words and follow the words in their head.
I would like to know from people who cannot think in pictures at all how you think, because I cannot imaging thinking without pictures.
And from anyone in how far your thinking translates into "kinesthetic/ relational thinking".
edit: any way of thinking is welcome to discuss as well, but please when it is not visual explain how it is working in your mind.
I can relate to this post in a few ways. I am also heavily visual and I think in images a great deal more than words. But I am also an avid reader so when I THINK in words, it is more like I see a scene that is narrated like in a book.
"So I am walking down the hallway, slowly as I think of what kind of tea I would like to fix for myself" and when I end up doing that out loud it can be embarrassing. However I do not think this way often and is mostly self-imposed to have words in there from time to time.
To me, that is what a concept is and a concept can be like a pattern. It's not linear, It is all there at once, so it is difficult to put into words. Language is linear and I can not think that way, but there can be music and sound in my thoughts.
That is exactly it! But this takes so much that I will miss so much more. Like on this entire process of getting to the tea, I will end up falling over something, or not realized i am being talked to, etc.
I know, right, getting lost in your thoughts and not realizing what is happening around you. I zone out and loose track of time doing this. The problem is that I think the same thoughts over and over again. like when I am thinking about what to write here, this sentence keeps going through my mind over and over again in circles, like my mind is caught in a glitch. This makes me so slow at whatever I am doing and it takes so long to do anything and days go by and I don't get anything done.
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I am in the first place visually thinking, but now I have discovered, that I think "visual-relational", by which I mean that if I think about a tree, in my mind I very quickly touch the bark as I did as a child and see the details in structure and remember the feeling touching it and it is not pure "visually" anymore, but also kinesthetic and in relation to the object.
Saying I am only visually thinking is wrong.
But I have trouble thinking verbally.
I know that people can think "I make a cup of tea now", but this kind of verbal thought-process I do not have.
I "see" from the perspective of the place where I take my tea the parts of the room I can see from the place where I sit to drink the tea, feel the hot cup and look into it and see the tea in the cup.
This will make me eventually make a cup of tea.
I know other people can think it in words and follow the words in their head.
I would like to know from people who cannot think in pictures at all how you think, because I cannot imaging thinking without pictures.
And from anyone in how far your thinking translates into "kinesthetic/ relational thinking".
edit: any way of thinking is welcome to discuss as well, but please when it is not visual explain how it is working in your mind.
This makes sense to me. I sometimes say that I think in a sensory way. Like the tea, I would see it and feel the heat of it on my palm and the ceramic of the cup at the same time and also the smell and moisture going up my nose from the surface of the liquid and taste in my mouth and slurping hot tea sounds and clink of cup against saucer and all visual aspects too. But I wouldn't narrate anything in words in my head. It would be all sensory.
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