Apparently Asperger's will continue to be diagnosed in UK

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which confirms what I was told by a family member who works with kids ASDs.

Yeah, and Asperger's in the new ICD-11 is an utter mess.

I allways prevered the DSM over the ICD and I'm from europe and we use the ICD-10 there.

This will be a total mess in future when one part of the world will stard diagnosing ASD and the other part the "old system" with Aspergers and LFA/HFA. I don't even care that much witch system is been used but one part of the world diagnosing it that way and the other part diagnosing it another way just messes me up.
Also I find the new ASD-criterias in the DSM-V very logical and make a lot of sence to me. There I also fit a lot better in the new diagnostic criterias.

It seems you are absolutely right.

They've got 3 years to tidy it up before it's final IIRC.

Currently all I could find is:

Social reciprocity disorder is characterised by persistent impairment in social reciprocity that is not usually accompanied by general intellectual impairment, severe language impairment or epilepsy. The limited ability to engage in reciprocal social interactions substantially constrains the roles the individual is able to take in society. Features of this disorder are manifest in early childhood but the impairing nature of this condition may be more obvious in later childhood, adolescence and adulthood. This category is specified as needing further testing.

Which is a bit messy..

Yeah a bit messy, also because Aspergers is per definition is not caused by epilepsy but goes along more often with epilepsy.
But if they leave that, alot of autistic people who also have epilepsy will get problems to get a proper diagnosis I would guess.

They've got [part] of the social domain there (lack of social reciprocity), but it's missing everything else (and that's a lot).

They may be retaining the diagnosis of Asperger's syndrome (Social reciprocity disorder) in the ICD-11, but it's necessitous for the WHO to provide more elaboration on the proposed criteria as it's rather unveracious for now. I'd consider it very important that they adhere to the principle characteristics of AS/HFA, especially the repertoire of restricted interests and behaviors, and delayed development of fine motor and co-ordination skills; otherwise, some doctors may construe it as unequivocal within the whole definition of the diagnostic label. The only justification for the DSM changes is that AS cannot be fundamentally distinguished from "high-functioning autism."

Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/ ... -disorders

Despite the globalized influence of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, the new publication will have no effect on how people are diagnosed in the UK as it is rarely used, thus medical doctors turning to the WHO's International Statistical Classification of Diseases. I have a feeling that some of the US psychologists and psychiatrists will choose not abide to the DSM-5 ASD criteria and may instead use the ICD manual, as all of the separate ASD sub-types (except PDD-NOS) are maintained, and there is mutual correspondence by the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) and the British Psychological Society (BPS) that the DSM-5 is lacking significant validation, and neglects the neuroscientific, and genetic basis of both mental illnesses and neurological disorders. There is also clear ascertainment that some of it's categorical changes are influenced by the pharmaceutical industry (Big Pharma), thus contributing to the transubstantiation of behavioral normalcies (e.g. grief) as illnesses so that drugs can be prescribed to "treat" them.
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Diagnosed with "Classical" Asperger's syndrome in 1998 (Clinical psychologist).
Ritvo Autism Asperger Diagnostic Scale-Revised (RAADS-R): 231/240
Aspie score: 186 out of 200
Neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 12 out of 200
AQ: 48/50 EQ: 9/80

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I was told that I'd be diagnosed with ASD but they'd refer to it as Asperger's if I wanted them to.

I'm in the process of diagnosis at the moment and I was puzzled when I asked the psycotherapist I'm seeing about the changes and she said there wouldn't be any until 2015. I guess the fact that the UK uses a different system explains it (I didn't realise that at the time). I'm irritated by this too - the English-speaking world needs to have a consensus about this as it's ridiculously confusing otherwise.

What the heck is "social reciprocity disorder"? Honestly, if that's what they have in there describing AS/HFA then "mess" doesn't even begin to cover it. That description doesn't mention anything about autism or any of the autistic symptoms aside from social difficulty. It's not a description of AS or anything resembling AS or even remotely relevant to autistic people - it's something else entirely (social difficulties can be caused by any number of things, like social anxiety for example). "Needs further study"? More like whoever wrote that is completely clueless, it reads like a throwback to 30 years ago before anyone had figured out what high-functioning autism was and before there was all the information and studies about it that there is now. Hopefully they'll fire whoever scribbled that bit of unhelpful nonsense and hire someone who knows what autism is.

I'm hoping that my diagnosis will just be "ASD" which would be most helpful under the circumstances, since that works under all circumstances and through whatever changes might be made.