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05 Feb 2013, 8:17 pm

I tend to have alternating phases of good and really bad sleep. Right now my 2-3 weeks of normal sleep seem to be over, and suddenly I tend to become tired far too late (usually 3-4 am), lie awake for hours, wake up multiple times during the night and get up at 1,2 pm if I don't have anything to do. I still usually get enough sleep since I usually don't have to wake up before 10am, but it gets distressing after a while, especially since in these phases I need ages to fall asleep even when I'm really tired, just tossing and turning in bed and feeling like my thoughts are racing all over the place.

This will probably last 2-3 weeks again and then it'll be better for a while, and this keeps repeating.

Do you have something similar?



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05 Feb 2013, 9:03 pm

It could be hormonal. There is a link between insomnia and the late luteal phase of the menstrual cycle. That'd be shortly before your period and linked to progesterone levels.



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05 Feb 2013, 9:05 pm

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It could be hormonal. There is a link between insomnia and the late luteal phase of the menstrual cycle. That'd be shortly before your period and linked to progesterone levels.


Ah. That would indeed fit right now. Will continue to keep an eye on this.



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05 Feb 2013, 9:53 pm

this happens to me as well, every fortnight or so it'll flare up for a few days to a week or so, fluctuating after it. I'm a guy so there's no possibility of menstrual cycle stuff going on.



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05 Feb 2013, 11:33 pm

Look up Deep Sleep Phase Disorder, it's when your internal clock is delayed so instead of wanting to sleep at like 10 to 9, or whatever is typical, you sleep from 3 to 11.



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05 Feb 2013, 11:45 pm

This tends to happen to me as well. I suspect it's hormonal thing for me. During the time before my period, it doesn't matter how much sleep I get. I never feel rested. I can be exhausted and still lie awake until 2 or 3 am.

I just try to tell myself it's a phase when I get too frustrated, but it doesn't always work.



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05 Feb 2013, 11:50 pm

Have you tried sleeping pills? There are some non addicting over the counter ones, Melatonin is good. Your body already produces it, but sometimes not early enough. It comes in different doses, so you could figure out which is best for you.



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06 Feb 2013, 12:51 am

it feels like my biorhythms are on a 25 hour cycle, so that every 24 days or so i go 'round the clock in terms of my sleep/wake times.



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06 Feb 2013, 8:39 am

Sona_21 wrote:
Have you tried sleeping pills? There are some non addicting over the counter ones, Melatonin is good. Your body already produces it, but sometimes not early enough. It comes in different doses, so you could figure out which is best for you.


I was given 20 Zopiclone (I think that was the name) a few months ago when it was so bad I could not get any shut eye before 5, 6 am. They were great, side effects only once after the first night. I would take one and fall asleep within half an hour or so. Sadly they tend to get you addicted. When I had run out of them I was pretty desperate at first.

I thought about Melatonin a few times. Sounds pretty good. Maybe I'll get myself some.


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06 Feb 2013, 3:24 pm

My sleep schedule is completely wrecked, always. It is not reliably connected to seasons, hormones, stress, or anything else - it just goes haywire. I'm usually a night owl, like it or not. When I finally do adjust and go to sleep and wake up at a normal time, it lasts about two days before I end up awake all night or back to my usual 3 or 4 am bedtime. It's been this way my entire life.


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06 Feb 2013, 4:35 pm

My sleeping patterns fluctuate strangely, and it seems to be related to whatever is going through my head at the time.

If Im on a coding jag, I dont sleep much at all.

If Im on a down time jag, I sleep alot.

It just depends.


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06 Feb 2013, 5:45 pm

I tend to have odd sleep patterns, naturally sleeping from about 04:00 to 12:00. Some of this seems to be dependent on what I have to do. I used to have a job with odd shift patterns (mixture of late and early shifts), If I had a run of early (09:00 start) shifts I would usually not sleep at all the first night, then revert to a suitable pattern after that. I have not had long periods of 9-5 working so I don't know how my body would react to this.

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it feels like my biorhythms are on a 25 hour cycle, so that every 24 days or so i go 'round the clock in terms of my sleep/wake times.

I have a (most probably on the spectrum) flatmate who is like this. Again it seems to depend what his work pattern/ activity is as to how much it shows.

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I was given 20 Zopiclone


I had these a few years a go for about a week. I could feel them becoming less effective as the week wore on. Melatonin seems to be more effective for me.



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06 Feb 2013, 11:31 pm

Mikomi wrote:
My sleep schedule is completely wrecked, always. It is not reliably connected to seasons, hormones, stress, or anything else - it just goes haywire. I'm usually a night owl, like it or not. When I finally do adjust and go to sleep and wake up at a normal time, it lasts about two days before I end up awake all night or back to my usual 3 or 4 am bedtime. It's been this way my entire life.

QFT. what do you think causes this?



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07 Feb 2013, 8:49 am

I don't know if it's similar, but it seems like I might have narcolepsy. I've suspected it for a while, but never wanted to say anything, because I knew my mom would not be too happy. When they did a sleep study, and the doctor said she thought that's what's the matter with me, my mom certainly was not happy. She said the study was not done well, so they don't have the right results.


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07 Feb 2013, 9:39 am

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I don't know if it's similar, but it seems like I might have narcolepsy. I've suspected it for a while, but never wanted to say anything, because I knew my mom would not be too happy. When they did a sleep study, and the doctor said she thought that's what's the matter with me, my mom certainly was not happy. She said the study was not done well, so they don't have the right results.


I doubt your mother knows better than a doctor, honestly.


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07 Feb 2013, 1:37 pm

When the doctor mentioned it, I had to insist that it was not possible although I've suspected it. My last neurologist who was the one who said I couldn't have AS because I was too smart was also a sleep specialist, and my mom like him respected his opinion a lot, he said I had sleep apnea. Although even when I slept with the cpap, I still had the same problems, so I just knew there was something else wrong. I'm hoping this dr can help me. And after all, if she says I do have it, she can prove it, and there's no way I could possibly lie on the sleep study. I have no control over how much time I spend in each sleep phase or how often during the night.


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