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hickeyj
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14 Feb 2013, 5:23 pm

So I was so convinced that I have Asperger's (or something on the spectrum) but at my 2nd visit with a Psychologist, he told me that I very likely don't have it, and so much of my issues are from social anxiety. I agree that I have a lot of social anxiety, but I'm not sure if it is just anxiety or if I have ASD as well. I could have had bad experiences socially, retreated, and never learned the social skills that I need? Or, I could be on the spectrum, had bad experiences socially due to naturally bad social skills and uncertainty, and grown anxiety from that? I do know that I've adapted myself a lot to fit in socially (and still can't), so I don't know if I've just adapted myself well enough to not be obviously ASD, or if I'm just finally getting around to developing social skills. I do know that I've never identified with people more than I have when reading aspie blogs. Should I talk to my parents and see what I was like as a kid?? Did you guys have a lot of social anxiety?


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14 Feb 2013, 5:26 pm

hickeyj wrote:
So I was so convinced that I have Asperger's (or something on the spectrum) but at my 2nd visit with a Psychologist, he told me that I very likely don't have it, and so much of my issues are from social anxiety. I agree that I have a lot of social anxiety, but I'm not sure if it is just anxiety or if I have ASD as well. I could have had bad experiences socially, retreated, and never learned the social skills that I need? Or, I could be on the spectrum, had bad experiences socially due to naturally bad social skills and uncertainty, and grown anxiety from that? I do know that I've adapted myself a lot to fit in socially (and still can't), so I don't know if I've just adapted myself well enough to not be obviously ASD, or if I'm just finally getting around to developing social skills. I do know that I've never identified with people more than I have when reading aspie blogs. Should I talk to my parents and see what I was like as a kid?? Did you guys have a lot of social anxiety?


I was convinced that I had severe anxiety and then I was diagnosed with Asperger's. The psychologist was close to asking me to leave but noticed the changes in my visit from first to last and then realized it was Asperger's. I was taking Anxiety meds and they were making me feel terrible. Needless to say, you may need to explain that you cannot understand social cues; explain that you can't understand the emotions of others and that you cannot understand your own emotions. Usually this sequence is needed.



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14 Feb 2013, 5:30 pm

I had social anxiety. But my problems were there before and are after.



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14 Feb 2013, 5:37 pm

There's more to AS than just social stuff. Maybe you should check out the diagnostic criteria yourself and see what applies and what doesn't.


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14 Feb 2013, 5:53 pm

When I first went to a psychologist at my university's student counseling clinic to talk about social skills problems, the psychologist right away said it's social anxiety and started doing the standard therapy for that. Now, I certainly have social anxiety, but I didn't feel like the therapy was getting to the root of the problem, and I had a difficult time trying to communicate that and ended up discontinuing the therapy. Fast forward two years and I was still frustrated with my social difficulties, and I remembered a conversation I had a long time ago with my Mom about Aspergers (but we never looked into it). I looked up information about it online, and felt like the description fitted very well. I e-mailed the psychologist I had seen before, and instead of asking her if she thought I had it, I asked her for a referral for someone who could diagnose aspergers in young adults. She gave me the name of a neuropsychiatrist, I went, I was diagnosed with Aspergers, and started getting the help that I needed.

The point of my story: psychologists are not the best people to diagnose Aspergers. You should ask your psychologist for a referral to an appropriate neuropsychiatrist. If he won't give you one, start looking around online for neuropsychiatrist near where you live, preferrably one that has experience working with adults with Aspergers.



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14 Feb 2013, 6:01 pm

hickeyj wrote:
So I was so convinced that I have Asperger's (or something on the spectrum) but at my 2nd visit with a Psychologist, he told me that I very likely don't have it, and so much of my issues are from social anxiety. I agree that I have a lot of social anxiety, but I'm not sure if it is just anxiety or if I have ASD as well. I could have had bad experiences socially, retreated, and never learned the social skills that I need? Or, I could be on the spectrum, had bad experiences socially due to naturally bad social skills and uncertainty, and grown anxiety from that? I do know that I've adapted myself a lot to fit in socially (and still can't), so I don't know if I've just adapted myself well enough to not be obviously ASD, or if I'm just finally getting around to developing social skills. I do know that I've never identified with people more than I have when reading aspie blogs. Should I talk to my parents and see what I was like as a kid?? Did you guys have a lot of social anxiety?


Social anxiety can mimic Asperger's and causes brain clouding, thus reducing your ability to read social cues.

There are other disorders similar to Asperger's, which aren't quite as severe, which also coexist with social anxiety (take SID for example). Asperger's is just the most famous because of TV and stuff.



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14 Feb 2013, 6:07 pm

I am just a grumpy old man, but these psychologists... these men and women in the "helping" profession, are just giving their opinion. It's like an art critic discussing a painting, and telling you whether or not it is abstract expressionist work, or more influenced by surrealism. I am sure you could find someone who says you are an Aspie, and another might tell you both.

The big problem, as I see it, is that drugs are often prescribed, and you have to keep coming back...forever.


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14 Feb 2013, 7:22 pm

hickeyj wrote:
So I was so convinced that I have Asperger's (or something on the spectrum) but at my 2nd visit with a Psychologist, he told me that I very likely don't have it, and so much of my issues are from social anxiety.

Did he give any reasons for that?



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14 Feb 2013, 7:30 pm

Hmm. Would social anxiety explain
1. Saying the wrong thing in conversations?
2. Intense fascination on a narrow subject?
3. Tics and stims?
4. Hyper/hyposensitivity to light, sound and/or textures?
5. Odd speech or patterns of behavior?
6. Lack of eye contact?
7. Taking apart a toy car to see what makes it run as opposed to simply playing with it like everyone else?



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14 Feb 2013, 7:44 pm

redrobin62 wrote:
Hmm. Would social anxiety explain
1. Saying the wrong thing in conversations?
2. Intense fascination on a narrow subject?
3. Tics and stims?
4. Hyper/hyposensitivity to light, sound and/or textures?
5. Odd speech or patterns of behavior?
6. Lack of eye contact?
7. Taking apart a toy car to see what makes it run as opposed to simply playing with it like everyone else?

1, 5 and 6 maybe. And the other ones aren't necessarily present at the same time in AS, either.
But any skilled professional should be able to recognize if you act strange because of anxiety or because you don't know better.



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14 Feb 2013, 8:01 pm

LOL. I took apart the inner door of the family microbus when I was a kid. I also tore into my fathers' model trains to see about the enigines inside. Also, a few insects ( but the cruelty of this finally got to me, do not worry I did not take up killing small animals!)
Sounds like an ASD to me, but a psychologist could do nothing for this. They cannot even rx medications for you ( that requires a MD degree in the USA).

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