Negative view on self diagnostic

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So what's with all these self diagnosed people? It's a real buzzkill when you find someone who is self diagnosed because it makes me think they're trying to justify being a loser. Not saying that us with AS are losers no matter what we do, but a very disorderly part of the syndrome has to do with being social, so it seems like something someone would claim to have to justify being an outcast or recluse. Personally, if I were never diagnosed, I would've never even considered that maybe I have some rare unknown disorder associated with autism.

Were you REALLY diagnosed, or are YOU some loser trying to make trouble?

Frankly, I'm not a loser in the conventional sense. I have a good job, and earn a good living, and am considered smart, and I feel fine at the moment.

And you are RIGHT! I NEVER considered I had some rare disorder, let alone anything dealing with autism! Talk about changing ones perspective!

I am here only because somebody ELSE spoke about AS, and I checked it out. I had a VERY large vocabulary for my age. It is still pretty big. I learned to read early. I had major obsessive interests. I have not been good at sports. I don't look people in the eyes generally. I have not been good socially, and miss a lot of non verbal or implied cues. HECK, my school even mentioned that to my mother who took me to a psychiatrist. I'm considered smart, and tested well to prove it. That was before aspergers was recognized. I could go on with things that seem somewhat autistic in retrospect.

BTW Sorry I don't fot your profile! Go someplace else, and try to stir up trouble THERE! This has been done too many times.

BTW I mean NO disrespect to ANY of those that ARE diagnosed. BESIDES, if I went to the psychiatrist 12 years later I MIGHT have been diagnosed AS! I can't find a reason to get diagnosed, BECAUSE I am not a loser. I have NOTHING to really gain by getting an official diagnosis.

I fit too perfectly, to really care.

Steve

Last edited by SteveK on 08 Jan 2007, 7:32 am, edited 1 time in total.

I wasn't diagnosed, I don't want to be diagnosed... I hate the attention and I don't want to be treated like I'm abnormal and be sent of to a hospital for a brain scan... I have all the aspie traits, and I don't really need justification from a professional. They're just going to tell me what I already know. I don't think undiagnosed people are faking it. All my life I've been different, and wondered why I was different... and Asperger syndrome explains all my problems and that makes me feel like less of a freak and therefore, happier. I can't be like everyone else, so why try?

Yes I was diagnosed at the young and tender age of 8. There are all kinds of people in the world so there are some who are like you and some who claim to have AS for the very reasons I explained above. I'm not trying to stir up trouble, it's just that I'm sure I'm not the only one on this board that has felt this way before so I feel like voicing my opinion. What's wrong with that?

I HAVE seen a few that describe things, and it looks like they misunderstood things, etc.... They usually leave, and may actually stay around and add something, etc....

Frankly, some say things, like you, that are a bit demeaning, and you said "loser" almost like AS people are losers. "differently abled" sounds like a copout, and USUALLY is. With AS that looks very different. I would make a LOUSY salesperson, but a great programer/teacher. I am a programer, and have often been asked to teach and have been told I am a good teacher.

So, sorry if I was too hard on, and misunderstood, you. You have to take it in the context of where we are. Frankly, I am here to learn, and maybe meet some AS people. Someday, maybe I MIGHT get diagnosed, just to assuage any doubts, and make acceptance in places like this simpler.

Steve

Why? Not everybody has the need to justify something all the time. People may just want to understand what's happening to them better, that's all.

Some find that a label helps them do this, so they may choose to apply one to themselves. Some choose not to. It doesn't really matter. The point is, if you find a description that totally matches you, and if you feel it helps you put many of your feelings and reactions into perspective and make sense of your own behavior, why not use it?

I'm neither an outcast nor a recluse. I have friends, interests, a nice well-paid job. Not that I consider being a loner bad. I think everybody can live the way that suits them best, as long as it doesn't trouble anybody; and I don't see how a person's value could suffer just because they chose to withdraw or because they have a different understanding of achievement than most others.

I'm "self-diagnosed." The way it was explained to me, there are six parameters for Asperger's. A person must have a positive score in at least three for a positive diagnosis. I only get a positive score in one, the social, where I'm at the top of the scale. So technically, I'm not Asperger's. But I'm not a "loser" either. My life has been very difficult, and I've struggled long and hard to understand why. AS explains the aspects of my life that are not explained by ACOA and SAD. So I feel like I fit in here. I have the same difficulties with social skills that NTs take for granted as everyone here. I've never been less than completly honest about my status. I'm not a "wannabe." In fact, being here has made me appreciate how much worse things could be. I think we try to be very inclusive here. That's why "neurotypical" is a profile option. I didn't check that one because it clearly doesn't apply.

Read wrong planets first page. This place is not a circle jerk for pedantic official dx
aspergers. The forum is for all PDD's. I think anybody can self-dx they have a PDD
without having to know the precise DSM-IV criteria for an aspergers dx. Do I need
to goto doctor to gets his opinion if I am a homosexual or not?

As for me, I have a lot of strong AS indicators, such as unusual interests and some social awkwardness.

I hardly need to go to some C grade quack and pay 'em 30 bucks an hour to diagnose me with something I found out about after an hour of research on the net. I've been in and out of Psychologist's offices my entire life and none of them ever even came close to the correct diagnosis, and I fit the critera for AS almost perfectly.

Maybe you're just lucky that someone gave you enough attention to realise you had a problem. Other people just don't get help.

I choose not to have my child formally diagnosed until he absolutely must be. He just started kindergarten, and I know that he has Asperger's. He realizes that he is different, also. He has all of the characteristics. However, I do not want a label to follow him throughout his entire school carreer unless it is absolutely necessary. I know that he is more intelligent than most in his class, and he is capable of learning. We deal with the issues as they arise. He needs modifications in areas such as activities of daily living (terrified of hand dryers- the sound), but that would not be addressed by "special education" where I live. The modifications can be made without giving him a label. At some point, if he needs the label in order to function, I will get it. At this point, we can do without it.

Me, I know I have aspergers. I've read about it on the net, I come here, and I feel so at home, have so much in common with people here.
For me it's like being gay, you don't need some specialist telling you you are gay, you know you are.

This site includes, not excludes, if you don't like the fact that there are people here who have other conditions or are not diagnosed, or who are neurotypicals, you'll have to find another site that suit your needs. It dosen't matter if you are asperger or not, male or female, old or young, european or american, everybody is welcome here.

You are practically saying that all un-diagnosed are losers, and you are almost saying that diagnosed people are losers too.

I'd rather know there's a reason behind why I had a f***ed up life as a kid.

(EDIT: Did they take out the censoring? I just had to edit my post)

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Reason they do not get diagnosed is they probably do not have as much of a problem as allot have with "social" "work" "or other thing's (or fear that they will turn round and say no to AS, and then they won’t know where they fit again.)" that need special help, don't know how the USA work's, but by getting an official diagnoses here gives you access to the "Gov" Free stuff "Income Support, without the (JobCentre) threaten to take the money away in a none aggressive way & having to go down and sign your declaration”, "Disability Living allowance" " higher help of the autism help" and many other free stuff, this gives you the help to get out and be able to pay for things, so your not trapped.

I have notice that people pay for they diagnosis, as it is free here because of the “NHS”, “dental”, “medical”, “ Drug prescriptions”, “Any treatment ‘ unless you want to jump the queue – with private ”, and many other things…

Not wrong to not get a official one (But in this country, it is in your best interest to get one at some point if you have a ( long term problem ) as it is harder to brake than any of the other types & you have people to talk to about problems you have, you see when you think they not helping you, the reason for it is because they do not know you have some other problems till you tell them, like going to the ( doctor ) they ask what the problem seems to be in your opinion, they can only go on the “ information you tell them “, but we (or most) tend to shut down – when they say “Do you have anything to add on what we talked about or anything to bring up that your concerned about…

& probably many other reasons…

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It is true the vast majority of Aspies are losers. I am professionally diagnosed and yes I am a loser too. Definition- Losers are people that do not have friends, are not in a relationship, married, working or have kids. That is what human life is all about on this planet. I have dated a lot, been engaged twice, but never married and no kids. I work, but in my opinion am underemployed. The majority of posts on here are about not being able to get along with others, make friends, get a date, have sex or get a job so I think that pretty much attests to the fact most of us have accomplished little in life.

I think it is sad that there is so much reverse discrimination on here. The diagnosed Aspies are in the minority and are treated as if WE have no right to be here.

Technically the diagnosis of homosexual is someone who has 25 years of continuous sexual relations with someone of the same sex. That is according to what a psychologist told me. That means few people that call themselves homosexual really can accurately say so.