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15 Oct 2010, 9:06 am

I like having the quiz and all, but there are some unclear questions in it, maybe as a result of translation errors? I'm thinking we should line up the questions we don't feel are clear, and send some email to the makers. Maybe they can clean it up for the people following us through the experience.

14. Do you feel an urge to peel flakes off yourself and / or others?
(What in bloody hell is it asking about? Scabs? Sweater Fluffs?)
44. Do you forget you are in a social situation when something gets your attention?
(Should this remain as "forget" or should it be "ignore"?)
51. Do you find it hard to tell the age of people?
57. Do you find it easy to estimate the age of people?
(Are these two questions just there to test honesty? They appear to ask the same thing?)
83 Do recently heard tunes or rhytms tend to stick and replay themselves repeatedly in your head?
(Spellcheck)
95. Have you been fascinated about making traps?
(Do they really mean Traps? Like.. Bear traps? That's pretty specific and odd, no?)
101 Are your views typical of your peer group?
(Is this intended to be a "views" question or a "beliefs" question?)

Results:
What exactly is "Hunting Behavior"? I want to understand my results :(



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15 Oct 2010, 9:31 am

That quiz isn't scientific.

The guy behind it is convinced that Asperger's is caused by Neanderthal genes. While it has recently been established that most Non-Africans have 2-6% Neanderthal genome (and thus are descended partially from Neanderthals), it is a conclusion built on wishful thinking.



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15 Oct 2010, 9:57 am

OddFiction wrote:
95. Have you been fascinated about making traps?
(Do they really mean Traps? Like.. Bear traps? That's pretty specific and odd, no?)(


This one really confused me. I had to answer no, but only because I've never had a situation where making a trap would have been even contemplated. How can I be fascinated with making traps if I've never even thought of it? I grew up in Southern California. To me hunting was something done by guys in coon skin hats and deerskin clothes with fringe.

There was one about walking on your toes. All I could think of was a ballerina en pointe. Well NO. I don't walk on my toes. But I have this annoying habit of creeping up on people (family only - I don't need an arrest record), almost like a cat stalking a mouse.



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15 Oct 2010, 10:10 am

wavefreak58 wrote:
OddFiction wrote:
95. Have you been fascinated about making traps?
(Do they really mean Traps? Like.. Bear traps? That's pretty specific and odd, no?)(


This one really confused me. I had to answer no, but only because I've never had a situation where making a trap would have been even contemplated. How can I be fascinated with making traps if I've never even thought of it? I grew up in Southern California. To me hunting was something done by guys in coon skin hats and deerskin clothes with fringe.

There was one about walking on your toes. All I could think of was a ballerina en pointe. Well NO. I don't walk on my toes. But I have this annoying habit of creeping up on people (family only - I don't need an arrest record), almost like a cat stalking a mouse.


I agree about the traps thing.

Rightly or wrongly, you decide, i intepreted the question in more general terms. So instead of it being just making traps, i was thinking more along the lines of making "complicated things", maybe like taking apart clocks and putting them back together again. Or putting together a tv/computer/car engine/shed/house etc. Something which requires physical effort but alsorequires a fair few complicated, but logical steps to complete.

I know somebody who definitely has aspie traits, and he has a love for doing these sort of things too. He's built houses, farm buildings etc.

So maybe its more about being interested in why things work, and the "liking" of putting things together, whether its to build something useful or simply for the challenge of it

Does that make much sense?



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15 Oct 2010, 11:08 am

You sound like me when my employer gives me a set of instructions.......I get hung up on the inevitable errors and then I want to throw out the whole shebang.

I heard that some of the Aspie-Quiz categories are just for research (which begs the question why do they count towards the "diagnostic" score? :x ).......apparently it's to test the Neanderthal theory, and I suspect the trap-setting question is something to do with that. I think it means animal traps (human traps would probably do, but they're rare) - and the key word is "fascinated".....presumably just setting traps without any great interest in the process doesn't count. I answered yes because I was once rather taken up with designing and using a humane mouse trap that actually worked, though I've never been sure whether the fascination was really down to an interest in trapping, or just that I had an important practical problem to solve and I love technical challenges. My father had gone as far as to set human traps on his allotment, which he seemed to thoroughly enjoy building, and he had autistic traits for sure, so I thought there could be something in the idea.

I expect flakes means flakes of skin......I probably said no to that because I don't get any strong urges to do anything of the kind.

"Forgetting" probably means "not feeling aware of" - so they're just asking if you remain aware of your social surroundings when something else gets your attention - they're looking for that Aspie hyperfocus.

Yes sometimes they repeat questions, even on the AQ Test they do that. It's not a trap, because the scoring methods don't test for inconsistency.....just sloppy workmanship I think, though the Aspie Quiz might do it just to make the scoring simpler when one questiom is relevent to two sections.

Bad spelling annoys me but it seems to be the way the world wants it, so I try to be forgiving.

Views, beliefs, attitudes, opinions, philosophy of life, outlook.....it's all much the same here. They just want to know if you get a feeling that you're somehow different from the rest of the herd about that kind of thing, or not.

It's sad that such well-established tests don't seem to get revised to make them more logical - I know Aspies are often habitually pedantic, which must be a pain in the butt for NTs who are used to muddling through with imperfect instructions, but these tests are designed for Aspies, so you'd thnk they'd know. Maybe they don't want to revise it because that would interfere with their statistics, rendering it unsafe to compare date from before the revision with data after it?

Anyway, with a little luck we might get a post from Rdos, the Aspie-Quiz creator, who sometimes posts here.



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15 Oct 2010, 11:11 am

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I agree about the traps thing.

Rightly or wrongly, you decide, i intepreted the question in more general terms. So instead of it being just making traps, i was thinking more along the lines of making "complicated things", maybe like taking apart clocks and putting them back together again. Or putting together a tv/computer/car engine/shed/house etc. Something which requires physical effort but alsorequires a fair few complicated, but logical steps to complete.

I know somebody who definitely has aspie traits, and he has a love for doing these sort of things too. He's built houses, farm buildings etc.

So maybe its more about being interested in why things work, and the "liking" of putting things together, whether its to build something useful or simply for the challenge of it

Does that make much sense?


Well heck yeah.

I am actually building a sun room on our house. My brain is consumed with it. Damn octagonal thing three times the size any reasonable person would make. But it's like a massive Lego project. It''s so cool. If I finish it.



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15 Oct 2010, 11:32 am

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There was one about walking on your toes. All I could think of was a ballerina en pointe. Well NO. I don't walk on my toes.


Toe-walking is a very common trait among people on the spectrum (it can also indicate other neurological conditions as well. It's not exclusively an autism thing.)

I have toe-walked since young childhood. My mother used to badger me mercilessly to stop it but as soon as I stopped paying attention, I'd be back up on my toes again. I still toe-walk today, at 43 years old. It's just one of those tihngs that's hard-wired into my neurology.


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15 Oct 2010, 12:15 pm

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There was one about walking on your toes. All I could think of was a ballerina en pointe. Well NO. I don't walk on my toes.


Toe-walking is a very common trait among people on the spectrum (it can also indicate other neurological conditions as well. It's not exclusively an autism thing.)

I have toe-walked since young childhood. My mother used to badger me mercilessly to stop it but as soon as I stopped paying attention, I'd be back up on my toes again. I still toe-walk today, at 43 years old. It's just one of those tihngs that's hard-wired into my neurology.


I've since come to know that toe walking has a specific meaning for ASD but I found the question very odd the first time I saw it. Perhaps an example of literal thinking on my part? After ballerinas do walk on their toes.

I do have some weird walks, but not on my toes. I pace in odd ways too. Figure eights happen a lot.



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15 Oct 2010, 1:50 pm

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I pace in odd ways too. Figure eights happen a lot.


I pace a lot and almost got arrested for pacing back and forth the length of my friend's car while waiting for him to go in McDonald's and order something to go.

Apparently, pacing looks "not normal." Who'd've thunk? </minor sarcasm>


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15 Oct 2010, 1:55 pm

Dr_Horrible wrote:
That quiz isn't scientific.

The guy behind it is convinced that Asperger's is caused by Neanderthal genes. While it has recently been established that most Non-Africans have 2-6% Neanderthal genome (and thus are descended partially from Neanderthals), it is a conclusion built on wishful thinking.


Quite so. Many questions based on writers theory, not such a good overall evaluation of the subject.



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17 Oct 2010, 9:10 am

I personally got the following scores in that test:

Your Aspie score: 156 of 200

Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 59 of 200

You are very likely an Aspie

I was going to include the image, too, but it doesn't work. However, I'm very much towards perception and social, followed by talent, on the "Aspie" side, followed by quite a bit of hunting, communication and compulsive. A little towards hunting, perception and communication on the neurotypical side, and really slightly towards social, but that's it.

Haha, and I came here less than two days ago, unaware of that it might be this way - I just came here after my ex was unfaithful to me and I had broken up with her, and I read how others here, like me, feel so unhuman. The first thing I noticed was how so many seem to view many things similarly to me, which is highly unusual. I actually was really interested in a girl who had Asperger's, about eight years ago, and I haven't been interested in many girls... she was incredibly sweet, I must say.

As for the trap thing, I have been fascinated with traps since I was nine or ten. It started with a complicated fantasy board game I got and I used to love looking at the cards for the game, due to, among other things, the traps. I also try to walk on my toes - I hate it when people run around like little children - I prefer to move as silently as possible and I tend to "creep up" on people. Hunter behaviour, obviously, and revenge and other dark thoughts are constantly on my mind. My sexual interests are extremely different from those of pretty much all others, too - except for my extreme interest in BDSM, I have some pretty extreme fetishes, as well. If anyone maybe might be interested, in my www link I have linked to a contact thread that I have made on a BDSM forum. Anyone else here also seriously into BDSM? The girl I talked about before, from eight years ago, was, anyway... in fact, although we never were together, she initiated me into it when she expressed how much it appealed to her.



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17 Oct 2010, 9:44 am

The peeling flakes off people question resonated strongly with me, I remember sitting in a college class and one of my friends had gotten sunburnt and, every time I looked at her, I could only think about how much I wanted to peel the flakes off.

I get the same feeling when I see people with fuzz on their shirts or with a hair out of place. I really really really wanna fix it for them, even if it's strangers. I don't though cuz I'd probably get socked in the jaw!

44. Do you forget you are in a social situation when something gets your attention?- that's an absolute yes for me when I have my iPod on and am lost in my own thoughts. I sometimes forget I am out in public and do something inappropriate like stick my finger in my nose or adjust my underwear.



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09 Apr 2013, 10:44 am

Regarding the question on the quiz regarding traps - it rang with me like a gong. I first heard of the question on this week's This American Life episode - and I had to search the web for that quiz.

Have you ever, when upset with someone, or had someone you wished were dead - visualized/fantasized about their ending? Not through any direct violence, but by way of some elaborate trap? It can be a trap of all things, like situations that would lead to their demise, or something that would entrap them forever. I never visualized death unless it was some chick I hated, but enough to humiliate them or whatever I wanted.



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09 Apr 2013, 11:05 am

OddFiction wrote:

14. Do you feel an urge to peel flakes off yourself and / or others?
(What in bloody hell is it asking about? Scabs? Sweater Fluffs?)


I was just getting ready to ask that one myself LOL!

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44. Do you forget you are in a social situation when something gets your attention?
(Should this remain as "forget" or should it be "ignore"?)


I took that to mean do you start acting like you would if no one was around. Start talking to yourself or start picking nose etc.

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51. Do you find it hard to tell the age of people?

{quote] 57. Do you find it easy to estimate the age of people?
(Are these two questions just there to test honesty? They appear to ask the same thing?)


Either that or testing your ability to spot redundancies.


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95. Have you been fascinated about making traps?
(Do they really mean Traps? Like.. Bear traps? That's pretty specific and odd, no?)


Yes.

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101 Are your views typical of your peer group?
(Is this intended to be a "views" question or a "beliefs" question?)


Good question.

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What exactly is "Hunting Behavior"? I want to understand my results :(


Yes indeed, what hunting got to do with AS?

And what about, "Do you like to jump over things?"



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10 Apr 2013, 8:12 am

briankelley wrote:

Yes indeed, what hunting got to do with AS?

And what about, "Do you like to jump over things?"


The guy who designed the test was interested in the "Neanderthal theory" of AS. If I remember right, the idea is that Neanderthals used to hunt differently to Homo Sapiens. Hence the questions about setting traps, jumping onto rocks, etc. They're not really diagnostic questions, they're just there for research. It would be interesting if the author (or anybody else) gave us some info on exactly what informed the design of those questions.