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24 May 2013, 5:13 pm

Much has been said about autistic spectrum people and the police. In recent years police forces have been issuing collapsible batons to its officers, and one supposed advantage is that the sound of it being deployed intimidates people into compliance though some admit it makes the target agitated. How do you think ASD people would likely react to this? Can you imagine yourself melting down at the sight and sound of a collapsible baton?



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24 May 2013, 5:29 pm

Surely the situation causing the use of the baton would be more of a concern.


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24 May 2013, 6:44 pm

CosmicRuss wrote:
Surely the situation causing the use of the baton would be more of a concern.

    ROFL good point!


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24 May 2013, 9:41 pm

What if you are just standing there doing nothing? Then, suddenly...



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24 May 2013, 9:53 pm

xenon13 wrote:
Much has been said about autistic spectrum people and the police. In recent years police forces have been issuing collapsible batons to its officers, and one supposed advantage is that the sound of it being deployed intimidates people into compliance though some admit it makes the target agitated. How do you think ASD people would likely react to this? Can you imagine yourself melting down at the sight and sound of a collapsible baton?


If they make them so the sound is eerie similar to cocking a shotgun then yes.. it would be very effective. :)



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24 May 2013, 10:20 pm

Dantac wrote:
xenon13 wrote:
Much has been said about autistic spectrum people and the police. In recent years police forces have been issuing collapsible batons to its officers, and one supposed advantage is that the sound of it being deployed intimidates people into compliance though some admit it makes the target agitated. How do you think ASD people would likely react to this? Can you imagine yourself melting down at the sight and sound of a collapsible baton?


If they make them so the sound is eerie similar to cocking a shotgun then yes.. it would be very effective. :)


They do...



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24 May 2013, 10:27 pm

Hahaha I need to buy me one of those then :)



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24 May 2013, 10:29 pm

I've messed around with them before, the ASP batons.
Unless it was being deployed against me the sound itself doesn't bother me.


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24 May 2013, 10:56 pm

CosmicRuss wrote:
Surely the situation causing the use of the baton would be more of a concern.


That about sums it up.


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24 May 2013, 11:22 pm

Sometimes that situation can be nothing more than just standing there doing nothing.



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24 May 2013, 11:31 pm

If the policeman draws out his baton, I'd assume there is a threat nearby. I'd welcome the sound, in fact, as it would alert me of the threat


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25 May 2013, 2:50 am

I occasionally carry one, so clearly the sound doesn't bother me. To me, any psychological advantage that the sound of extending the thing may inflict is offset by losing the element of surprise, which is one of the major attributes of the collapsible baton. My personal favorite tactic with an ASP is to discretely hold the collapsed baton in my right hand while standing with my arms crossed, so that the baton is fully chambered for a back hand strike with no wind up and no warning. Nasty.


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25 May 2013, 3:19 am

I'm personally more afraid of the .40 caliber Glocks all of the cops carry than the batons.A baton might crack a rib but a mag full of hollowpoints will kill you.



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25 May 2013, 3:38 am

hblu1992 wrote:
I'm personally more afraid of the .40 caliber Glocks all of the cops carry than the batons.A baton might crack a rib but a mag full of hollowpoints will kill you.

the worst part is cops are not trained to aim they are trained to dump the mag and run away



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25 May 2013, 3:48 am

I'm not afraid of objects.



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25 May 2013, 4:14 am

Dillogic wrote:
I'm not afraid of objects.


It's not just the object .It's the object in the hands of someone who thinks they are correct in attempting to shoot or hit me.Then theres the sound of a handgun going off without ear protection .I dont even want to imagine what that feels like.

chris5000-yeah, there is a story on the CNN website right now on how a cop shot a girl he was trying to protect.Athough in their defense they aren't trained for combat and some cops can go years without having to fire a weapon in anger so when It comes time to use a weapon it's not a familar situation.