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25 May 2013, 10:46 am

I've had mental health professionals say different things about possibly having an ASD, but they seem to agree that my bipolar trumps that and is much more important to diagnose and treat. They usually say I have it mild or I don't have it but I have traits.

Anyway what one doctor said sticks with me. She read some of my old childhood psych reports. She belived "Aspergers was a major cause of your childhood problems but you got alot better and some other doctors are missing it but I see signs of it in you."

Can an aspie become normal enough to unnoticed? Actually my last two doctors said they honesty didn't know.


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25 May 2013, 10:52 am

Depends on the severity of the aspergers, the self awareness of the aspergers, whether the person has been to or goes to dbt and what symptoms are preset. I am high functioning, people can't tell a difference between me and a normal person. I am a lot more manipulative and a chronic liar to people irl though.



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25 May 2013, 3:33 pm

AS is a disorder.

When it stops damaging "normal life functions" it ceases to be a disorder.

BUT: what one may define as "damaging normal life functions" is a bit iffier. And probably a lot more Personal.

If you say/think/feel, it does for you, then you're right no matter what anyone else says.


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25 May 2013, 3:43 pm

Oh, "stops damaging" might occur Via changes in/of: medication and/or experience and/or coping and/or situational and/or biology and/or relationships.

Yes it can/does change a lot, and sometimes, some people just seem to "get well".


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26 May 2013, 12:56 am

My understanding and experience tells me that ASDs are lifelong conditions and, generally, the underlying state of being / neurology remains static throughout your life. What likely changes is the person's methods and ability for managing the condition. I may well have become 'better' at mimicking NTs and hiding the most obvious traits to some degree but this is a fascade or mask that I have to put effort into maintaining and one which falls away when I am alone and able to relax and be myself. I don't see that as becoming somehow 'cured', it's just hiding the condition - something I gradually learned I needed to do to get by, even long before I suspected or understood AS.


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26 May 2013, 1:53 am

Some people’s symptoms can improve over time, which raises the question why are the so called experts not learning from this?



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26 May 2013, 1:56 am

Angnix wrote:
Can an aspie become normal enough to unnoticed?

It all depends on your placement. Sales dept, no; data cubicle, yes.


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26 May 2013, 5:21 am

You can mask and learn some things, but you will always have it, it's a lifelong neurological difference.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywillin ... of-autism/


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26 May 2013, 7:45 am

I've had therapy sessions but I learned nearly nothing from them.

I've never managed to "get better", I've just learned to do things I couldn't do before, but mostly because of my parents help.

I just use my instinct to go ahead in life. That's not bad actually.



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26 May 2013, 11:18 am

Speaking for myself, I learned a set of social routines that I store in my mental library and can access and run as needed.

"She is saying hello my name is eworuehfoweh and extending her hand." OK, say, "Pleased to meet you. My name is blahblahsit." Extend hand, shake hers with just the right amount of pressure to convey sincerity. Look her in the eye. Smile. Look for opportunity to go find quiet corner in which to recover.



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26 May 2013, 12:18 pm

i cannot think of a condition that improves under distress. i mean that im not sure that this is ASD specific. in the absence if distress, or presence of eustress (a perception difference) conditions improve. ive heard folks on here talk about becoming 'more autistic' or, rather, tending more toward the lower end of the spectrum, over time (though 'time' not being the probably variable in the change).

also, as one responder noted, conditions become less non-normative based on environment.



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26 May 2013, 1:08 pm

blahblahsit wrote:
Speaking for myself, I learned a set of social routines that I store in my mental library and can access and run as needed.

"She is saying hello my name is eworuehfoweh and extending her hand." OK, say, "Pleased to meet you. My name is blahblahsit." Extend hand, shake hers with just the right amount of pressure to convey sincerity. Look her in the eye. Smile. Look for opportunity to go find quiet corner in which to recover.


My daily existence. AS never goes away, but things like creating elaborate scripts in my head has helped me cope with it. A bit of faking is necessary to get along with NTs. If you give them what they expect, then they will judge you less.


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This misdiagnosis caused me significant stress, which lessened upon finding out the truth about myself from my current and past long-term therapists - that I am an anxious and highly sensitive person but do not have an autism spectrum disorder.

My diagnoses - social anxiety disorder and obsessive-compulsive disorder.

I’m no longer involved with the ASD world.