Controlling ADHD impulses and attention span

Page 1 of 1 [ 12 posts ] 

Laddo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Dec 2011
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 581

05 Jun 2013, 2:21 pm

I have ADHD as well as AS and was wondering what fellow ADHD people do to control their impulses. I am way too spontaneous which always leads me to blow my money on stupid things and is always getting me into trouble somehow. I've been on Ritalin before and it caused a few problems so I'd rather not go back on the stuff. Any other medications with less side effects? What about self-control techniques?

My attention span can also be pretty dire. It's especially annoying when I'm being given instructions and I realise that I have no idea what the person giving me instructions has just said. It has made employers very impatient with me in the past, which isn't really fair as I can't help it. Any suggestions on stopping my attention from wandering?


_________________
I am no longer using this account or this website. Do not bother contacting me because any messages will be ignored. The fact that you can't delete your profile while all your information is retained is also disgraceful.


Thelibrarian
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Aug 2012
Age: 62
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,948
Location: Deep in the heart of Texas

05 Jun 2013, 2:42 pm

What helps me is certainly politically incorrect, but since you asked, it is nicotine in the form of English nasal snuff, and occasionally American oral tobacco.

I too was on Ritalin until I turned thirteen. While I always hated Ritalin, it did help me concentrate, especially in school. When I was taken off the stuff, my life went from bad to worse. I started using oral tobacco shortly thereafter, and continued because it helped.

It is habit-forming, and when I don't have it I miss it. But it's something I can do without, and have done without. The problem is that whenever I don't use it, I'm at the same point I was when I was a kid: no ability to concentrate whatsoever, and my otherwise good life now begins to fall apart; I simply have too many responsibilities. I would further add that if somebody could come up with something safer and as efficaceous as the kind of tobacco I use, I would quit immediately.

Of course, due to its habit-forming potential, I wouldn't advise anybody else to go this route, but it works for me, and without the emotional roller coaster trip of speed-type drugs.



Laddo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Dec 2011
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 581

05 Jun 2013, 3:39 pm

I didn't know snuff and oral tobacco could have a calming effect, that's really interesting. I do occasionally smoke cigarettes, which can help my jumpiness a bit. I'm not sure whether it's the nicotine that helps or the actual feel of smoking a cigarette, though. Sometimes just puffing on a pen or something similar seems like it does help with what I believe to be nicotine cravings, so who knows?

I might give the snuff a try. If cigarettes can help then a little extra nicotine can't hurt.


_________________
I am no longer using this account or this website. Do not bother contacting me because any messages will be ignored. The fact that you can't delete your profile while all your information is retained is also disgraceful.


Thelibrarian
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Aug 2012
Age: 62
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,948
Location: Deep in the heart of Texas

05 Jun 2013, 3:48 pm

Laddo wrote:
I didn't know snuff and oral tobacco could have a calming effect, that's really interesting. I do occasionally smoke cigarettes, which can help my jumpiness a bit. I'm not sure whether it's the nicotine that helps or the actual feel of smoking a cigarette, though. Sometimes just puffing on a pen or something similar seems like it does help with what I believe to be nicotine cravings, so who knows?

I might give the snuff a try. If cigarettes can help then a little extra nicotine can't hurt.


I'd be careful with the cigarettes. Not only are they damaging to the health, but they spike the nicotine in the blood rather than releasing it slowly.

Nicotine is unique in that it is the only drug known to man that stimulates the mind and improves concentration while also exerting a calming effect. It actually makes its users more sober. The Internet is full of interesting research on nicotine as therapy for all manner of mental and neurological problems.

Having said this, all of it is habit-forming.



theWanderer
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 12 Oct 2010
Age: 65
Gender: Male
Posts: 996

05 Jun 2013, 7:05 pm

Caffeine helps me focus. But you've got to figure out the right dose for yourself, or it will not help at all. The days I drink coffee are some of my best days though - I try not to drink some every day, as I don't want to become habituated to it. I've learned all I could on the science of caffeine to get the best results.

By the way, as far as nicotine is concerned... tobacco taken orally tends to cause mouth cancer, and snuff does some nasty things, too. And nicotine is also incredibly toxic; it is used as a natural insecticide, and a guy I know who's a genius at chemistry told me if you soaked a couple of cigarettes in a glass of water for twenty four hours, then took a drink from the glass, you'd be dead before your head hit the table. It isn't really the sort of thing you want to mess around with lightly.

(I've never smoked, but I do get a certain calming effect from sticking a pen in my mouth, even "dry smoking" it. My own guess would be that's simply a sort of stim.) Which leads into my final piece of advice. I've noticed, at least for me, that diet has a very strong effect on me. Too much sugar sets my attention flopping all over the place; anything with too high a glycemic index as well. Blood sugar levels have a huge influence on mental state. But what I've also noticed is that sensory inputs can have a positive or negative effect (depending on the input, obviously). Just chewing sometimes helps me focus. Walking and pacing are good, too. Being outdoors. The right foods. Sometimes sucking on something helps. These exact things may not work for you, but you can always experiment.


_________________
AQ Test = 44 Aspie Quiz = 169 Aspie 33 NT EQ / SQ-R = Extreme Systematising
===================
Not all those who wander are lost.
===================
In the country of the blind, the one eyed man - would be diagnosed with a psychological disorder


Thelibrarian
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 5 Aug 2012
Age: 62
Gender: Male
Posts: 1,948
Location: Deep in the heart of Texas

05 Jun 2013, 7:25 pm

"By the way, as far as nicotine is concerned... tobacco taken orally tends to cause mouth cancer, and snuff does some nasty things, too. And nicotine is also incredibly toxic; it is used as a natural insecticide, and a guy I know who's a genius at chemistry told me if you soaked a couple of cigarettes in a glass of water for twenty four hours, then took a drink from the glass, you'd be dead before your head hit the table. It isn't really the sort of thing you want to mess around with lightly."

Oral tobacco tends to cause mouth cancer? I'd like to see some proof in the form of hard statistics (i.e., a person who smokes a pack of cigarettes a day is thirty times more likely to develop lung cancer than a nonsmoker. How much more likely is a tobacco chewer to develop oral cancers than a non-tobacco user?). Good luck.

Everything is toxic in large enough doses. If you were to down an entire bottle of most pills it would likely be fatal too. The efficacious dose for nicotine simply happens to be very small.



kanashimoo
Raven
Raven

Joined: 23 May 2013
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Posts: 117
Location: Vancouver, Canada

06 Jun 2013, 4:22 am

Adhd drugs don't really work for me, but Vyvanse I find is milder in side effects. It's very expensive though, at $5 per pill.make sure you get coverage or tax deductions.

I've also heard that Desoxyn works well, but that's really just meth...



Laddo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Dec 2011
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 581

06 Jun 2013, 5:50 am

theWanderer wrote:
I've noticed, at least for me, that diet has a very strong effect on me. Too much sugar sets my attention flopping all over the place; anything with too high a glycemic index as well. Blood sugar levels have a huge influence on mental state. But what I've also noticed is that sensory inputs can have a positive or negative effect (depending on the input, obviously). Just chewing sometimes helps me focus. Walking and pacing are good, too. Being outdoors. The right foods. Sometimes sucking on something helps. These exact things may not work for you, but you can always experiment.

I think I get worse concentration when my blood sugar levels get too low, although I'm not 100% on that. I am underweight though (my BMI averages at around 17.5) so that could be it, too. I'll have to experiment with sensory input.

kanashimoo wrote:
Adhd drugs don't really work for me, but Vyvanse I find is milder in side effects. It's very expensive though, at $5 per pill.make sure you get coverage or tax deductions.

I've also heard that Desoxyn works well, but that's really just meth...


$5 a pill!? Bloody hell, I can't afford anything like that. It sounds a lot like cocaine or mephedrone, though. I don't wanna go down that road again... It's strange how most medications for ADHD are very similar to various illegal drugs.


_________________
I am no longer using this account or this website. Do not bother contacting me because any messages will be ignored. The fact that you can't delete your profile while all your information is retained is also disgraceful.


kanashimoo
Raven
Raven

Joined: 23 May 2013
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Posts: 117
Location: Vancouver, Canada

06 Jun 2013, 5:58 am

Don't know where you're from, but my parents medical plan through blue cross covers 95%. Ymmv

I'm no chemistry expert, but most adhd drugs are just very similar to meth and desoxyn is the pharmaceutical version of Crystal meth. There are a few non stimulants I recall..



Laddo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Dec 2011
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 581

06 Jun 2013, 6:30 am

I'm from the UK, so I'd have to either to rely on the NHS (hugely underfunded and terribly managed) and their long waiting periods to even get a prescription, or go private which in the UK is very expensive as hardly anyone has health insurance so costs have to be higher.

They're too close to meth and coke for my liking. I don't think my heart could take any more stimulants. Any non-stimulants sound good to me, do you know any of their names?


_________________
I am no longer using this account or this website. Do not bother contacting me because any messages will be ignored. The fact that you can't delete your profile while all your information is retained is also disgraceful.


kanashimoo
Raven
Raven

Joined: 23 May 2013
Age: 31
Gender: Male
Posts: 117
Location: Vancouver, Canada

06 Jun 2013, 6:50 am

I've personally never tried it, but there's strattera. Drugs just haven't really worked for me so I'm thinking of just jumping the gun on meth.sigh



Laddo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 24 Dec 2011
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Posts: 581

07 Jun 2013, 6:10 am

Cheers mate, I'll look into it. Drugs haven't really worked for me either to be honest though, so maybe I should stay away from them.


_________________
I am no longer using this account or this website. Do not bother contacting me because any messages will be ignored. The fact that you can't delete your profile while all your information is retained is also disgraceful.