Good news, everyone with AS is cured they no longer have it.

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KenM
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11 Jun 2013, 1:45 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/normal-not-saying ... 26769.html

Yes we are cured because Aspergers is no longer a condition under the DSM. Isn't that great?

Anyone else like to call BS? :x :x :x :x :x



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11 Jun 2013, 1:57 pm

I still don't understand how people can still think AS isn't autism and think it's all separate from it.


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11 Jun 2013, 1:57 pm

No, AS still exists. Apparently, the new DSM has the statement that diagnoses made under the old DSM still exist. Anyway, mine does.

I talked to my psychiatrist about that today. She is keeping "Asperger's" on my record, mostly because the new DSM says she can and I don't fit classic autism. (I don't, anymore. Used to, as a kid, but I don't fit Asperger's either... sooo...)

Anyway. It kind of annoys me, because I'm one of the people who really would be better served by being described in more general terms as having an "autism spectrum disorder". Maybe I will be, one of these days, if I can explain to this woman why that would be better for me than the term Asperger's.

So, no, your diagnosis is not going away. At the very, very worst, it will be called "autism spectrum disorder" along with the other ASDs. Most likely, you will keep your Asperger's diagnosis because it'll be grandfathered in, like mine was, whether I liked it or not.


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11 Jun 2013, 2:05 pm

League_Girl wrote:
I still don't understand how people can still think AS isn't autism and think it's all separate from it.


I don't think its seperate. But autism is such a wide spectrum that I think there needs to be different diagonse so the people will get the right treatment they need. If you label everyone with autism the same, be hard for them to cope I think.



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11 Jun 2013, 2:08 pm

Callista wrote:
So, no, your diagnosis is not going away. At the very, very worst, it will be called "autism spectrum disorder" along with the other ASDs. Most likely, you will keep your Asperger's diagnosis because it'll be grandfathered in, like mine was, whether I liked it or not.


I disagree with your "worst" vs "best" ;)

(I agree with you, I'd much rather be called "autism spectrum disorder" - I'd be better served under that label than any of the old labels.)

Anyways,

There was something official stated about people who'd had old diagnoses being grandfathered in to the DSM-5. I don't remember what it was, but there was an official statement on the matter about people not losing diagnoses.



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11 Jun 2013, 2:14 pm

KenM wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
I still don't understand how people can still think AS isn't autism and think it's all separate from it.


I don't think its seperate. But autism is such a wide spectrum that I think there needs to be different diagonse so the people will get the right treatment they need. If you label everyone with autism the same, be hard for them to cope I think.
What I don't like about the specific diagnoses is that they don't fit everybody--don't fit most people. People like me, who don't really fit the Asperger's stereotype and don't really need what they expect people with Asperger's to need, come off worse when we're given such a specific label. With a term like PDD-NOS or autism spectrum disorder, professionals have to ask, Okay, how does autism affect this person specifically?

I get that if you identify strongly with Asperger's, if it's a part of your identity, you don't want people to say you're not an Aspie; and for that, I hope you guys get your Asperger's labels transferred over. I don't think it'll make a difference in terms of treatment, but identity can be a big thing and it can feel very invalidating to have people force one label on you when you identify with another, even if they're both correct.

But for people like me, where the Asperger's label is actually limiting, I really wish there were the option to just say, "No. I have autism. Plain autism. No subtype. Stop making assumptions; I am just me." The term autism spectrum disorder is one way to do that. I don't think my psychiatrist understands how important that is to me, though I guess at some point I will be able to explain it to her and she'll probably either put a note in my record that I'm not the typical Asperger's case or else just switch me to ASD. She's not a bad sort; she does listen. If she didn't, I wouldn't keep seeing her.


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11 Jun 2013, 4:26 pm

the us goverment still goes by the dsm 4 currently also only the very mild will not make it to the new version of autism



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11 Jun 2013, 5:14 pm

As far as I'm concerned, I'm still an Aspie.


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11 Jun 2013, 5:20 pm

KenM wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/normal-not-saying-goodbye-aspergers-153426769.html

Yes we are cured because Aspergers is no longer a condition under the DSM. Isn't that great?

Anyone else like to call BS? :x :x :x :x :x


Nope. I'm just autistic now.

I'm okay with that.



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11 Jun 2013, 5:22 pm

does this mean anything for me? i am a little worried anyway.


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11 Jun 2013, 5:23 pm

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As far as I'm concerned, I'm still an Aspie.


That's exactly how I feel about it too. I'm still an Aspie.


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11 Jun 2013, 5:24 pm

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does this mean anything for me? i am a little worried anyway.
Nope. Your diagnosis may change to "autism spectrum disorder", but if you're diagnosed with classic autism or PDD-NOS now, it's unlikely to change to anything but autism spectrum disorder.


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11 Jun 2013, 5:25 pm

AdamAutistic wrote:
does this mean anything for me? i am a little worried anyway.


It should only mean that your diagnosis (if in a place where the DSM is used in preference to the ICD) is autism spectrum disorder instead of autism.

There shouldn't be any change for most people diagnosed on the spectrum, at least not beyond the label used.



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11 Jun 2013, 5:28 pm

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Yes we are cured because Aspergers is no longer a condition under the DSM.


No, you're autistic now.

The people who'd get a diagnosis of Asgergers under DSM-IV are getting a diagnosis of Level 1 autism under DSM-5.

You should actually read the article you're linking to, you know.



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11 Jun 2013, 5:33 pm

I think some Aspies are worried that if they are called "autistic", people will start to ignore their strengths. Asperger's is associated with the stereotype of the intelligent, socially clumsy nerd and if you roughly fit that, then it might be a little daunting to be associated with "autism", which is more strongly associated with disability.

But I think that as time passes, "autism" will come to mean a very wide variety of things, including the nerdy sort of people they used to call Aspies. In the meanwhile, though, it might be awkward.


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11 Jun 2013, 5:55 pm

I'm not sure why everybody is so panicked.
It's not like they said "Hey! There's no such thing as Autism! You're all a buncha lazy liars!"
It's not like they outlawed use of the word Aspergers or aspie.
It's not like they're going to ask for a refund from everybody that's gotten any help.

It is a spectrum so of course everyone is going to be different. Especially until they can break it up into more biteable size chunks.
The don't hate you because they reworded something; well or badly.
The wont start murdering us just because it is not fully understood/explained to fit everything.


Perhaps the discomfort of a new DSM is the introduction of a change in our routine.
That would do it for me...


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