How to help grieving family several states away?

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21 Jun 2013, 9:12 pm

My aunt recently died of breast cancer. She was only in her fifties. My sister and I planned to visit her in the hospital, but we were too late and she died before we could get there. The funeral was today. I couldn't figure out how to travel so far within such a short time.

Now I'm a few states away from the closest family members. Usually I like that just fine; my mom and I really have our differences and we just argue when we get too close.

But I'm very conscious of how sad they must be right now. My grandparents have lost a daughter; my mother has lost her sister; my sister has lost a favorite aunt who once let her stay with her when she ran away from home as a teenager.

Is there anything a person with limited means can do to help people who are grieving and several states away? I know my mom will be scared because it brings back her own fears of getting cancer, because our whole family gets breast cancer, pretty much, and my aunt was the youngest of them. I'm going to send my cousins and grandparents a card, because that's the accepted protocol, but that feels just so inadequate.

Whenever something goes wrong I want to fix it. I can't bring my aunt back. But is there any way I can help my family?


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21 Jun 2013, 9:31 pm

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Whenever something goes wrong I want to fix it. I can't bring my aunt back. But is there any way I can help my family?


Are you good at listening, even if you aren't good at talking? Could you offer them a shoulder to cry on over the phone if they ever just need to talk to someone? Sometimes people don't need to hear what you have to say, they just need you to hear what they have to say.

Otherwise I think just letting them know that you care about them and love them, and that you can imagine how sad they are and wish you could make it better, that might be all you can do -- and for a lot of people that would make them feel better in a way...or less alone or less scared, just knowing or being reminded that somebody cares about them.


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21 Jun 2013, 9:40 pm

Callista wrote:
My aunt recently died of breast cancer. She was only in her fifties. My sister and I planned to visit her in the hospital, but we were too late and she died before we could get there. The funeral was today. I couldn't figure out how to travel so far within such a short time.

Now I'm a few states away from the closest family members. Usually I like that just fine; my mom and I really have our differences and we just argue when we get too close.

But I'm very conscious of how sad they must be right now. My grandparents have lost a daughter; my mother has lost her sister; my sister has lost a favorite aunt who once let her stay with her when she ran away from home as a teenager.

Is there anything a person with limited means can do to help people who are grieving and several states away? I know my mom will be scared because it brings back her own fears of getting cancer, because our whole family gets breast cancer, pretty much, and my aunt was the youngest of them. I'm going to send my cousins and grandparents a card, because that's the accepted protocol, but that feels just so inadequate.

Whenever something goes wrong I want to fix it. I can't bring my aunt back. But is there any way I can help my family?

I am sorry for your loss, and the fears that can come along with this. Callista, what you have written here is so sensitive and considerate that I feel it would be a good start to a letter (rather than a card) - or - as a start to a family conference call. They cost a bit, but of course far less than an actual journey, and can be as long as all who are on the line have time or inclination for. I don't remember the companies who provide these conference calls, but they are easily arranged. Best of luck, and hope this helps.



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21 Jun 2013, 9:44 pm

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Callista wrote:
Whenever something goes wrong I want to fix it. I can't bring my aunt back. But is there any way I can help my family?


Are you good at listening, even if you aren't good at talking? Could you offer them a shoulder to cry on over the phone if they ever just need to talk to someone? Sometimes people don't need to hear what you have to say, they just need you to hear what they have to say.

Otherwise I think just letting them know that you care about them and love them, and that you can imagine how sad they are and wish you could make it better, that might be all you can do -- and for a lot of people that would make them feel better in a way...or less alone or less scared, just knowing or being reminded that somebody cares about them.


I wish my brothers would have let me have a shoulder to cry on after mom died. Their answer was, get over it, you fat fscking a***hole, and GROW THE FSCK UP! Better yet, since you want to kill yourself, since I was in a severe depression AND taking antidepressants that made me worse instead of better, we'll supply the rope, you hang yourself and will laugh and party while you strangle hanging from the tree. And by the way, you can go to hell for hanging yourself.



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21 Jun 2013, 9:45 pm

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Callista wrote:
Whenever something goes wrong I want to fix it. I can't bring my aunt back. But is there any way I can help my family?


Are you good at listening, even if you aren't good at talking? Could you offer them a shoulder to cry on over the phone if they ever just need to talk to someone? Sometimes people don't need to hear what you have to say, they just need you to hear what they have to say.

Otherwise I think just letting them know that you care about them and love them, and that you can imagine how sad they are and wish you could make it better, that might be all you can do -- and for a lot of people that would make them feel better in a way...or less alone or less scared, just knowing or being reminded that somebody cares about them.


I wish my brothers would have let me have a shoulder to cry on after mom died. Their answer was, get over it, you fat fscking a***hole, and GROW THE FSCK UP! Better yet, since you want to kill yourself, since I was in a severe depression AND taking antidepressants that made me worse instead of better, we'll supply the rope, you hang yourself and will laugh and party while you strangle hanging from the tree. And by the way, you can go to hell for hanging yourself.



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21 Jun 2013, 9:59 pm

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I wish my brothers would have let me have a shoulder to cry on after mom died. Their answer was, get over it, you fat fscking a***hole, and GROW THE FSCK UP! Better yet, since you want to kill yourself, since I was in a severe depression AND taking antidepressants that made me worse instead of better, we'll supply the rope, you hang yourself and will laugh and party while you strangle hanging from the tree. And by the way, you can go to hell for hanging yourself.
Wow. What idiots. It sounds like they liked to abuse you; you have every right to be mad at them. Besides, they were completely wrong. Crying over losing one's mother is an entirely grown-up thing to do; jeering at a sibling who is doing so is totally immature. You're probably a lot tougher than they are anyway, having survived depression. I know how that goes, and it's not for wimps.

I'm no good at conversations, but I could probably sit there and listen. I dunno if they'll want to talk. Mom will; she's always talking my ear off... Dunno about the others. My sister's an introvert and I'm autistic, so we don't really do the long-phone-conversations thing.


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22 Jun 2013, 12:14 am

When I lost my mom 11 months ago my family seemed to find release when they talked.
It would probably be comforting to send them a short letter letting them know that you understand that they are hurting and sad.
Letting them have the opportunity to call you up (or you call them) and talk while you listen might also help them.
Keep in mind the 5 stages of grief. They may express their feelings that are in no way in line with reality but that is ok and part of the grieving process.
Do not be afraid to also grieve if you need to.


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22 Jun 2013, 5:07 am

So sorry for you loss, Callista, and for your family's grief. Already you've shown your thoughtfulness and that probably matters more to your family than you know. I might have an idea: maybe you could send them something you've made in your aunt's honour? Examples could be a special playlist CD of her favourite music to share, a photo montage, written poem or a special anecdote about your time with her, a gift basket of homemade treats or even delivered flowers. If appropriate, you might donate time (or funds) to your local Cancer Charity in her honour. Just writing them notecards and keeping in touch via email or telephone is the way to tell them you care. Like nebrets posted, you'll need time to adjust too. Take care Callista and all the best to your family now.


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22 Jun 2013, 7:38 am

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I wish my brothers would have let me have a shoulder to cry on after mom died. Their answer was, get over it, you fat fscking a***hole, and GROW THE FSCK UP! Better yet, since you want to kill yourself, since I was in a severe depression AND taking antidepressants that made me worse instead of better, we'll supply the rope, you hang yourself and will laugh and party while you strangle hanging from the tree. And by the way, you can go to hell for hanging yourself.
Wow. What idiots. It sounds like they liked to abuse you; you have every right to be mad at them. Besides, they were completely wrong. Crying over losing one's mother is an entirely grown-up thing to do; jeering at a sibling who is doing so is totally immature. You're probably a lot tougher than they are anyway, having survived depression. I know how that goes, and it's not for wimps.

I'm no good at conversations, but I could probably sit there and listen. I dunno if they'll want to talk. Mom will; she's always talking my ear off... Dunno about the others. My sister's an introvert and I'm autistic, so we don't really do the long-phone-conversations thing.


The bad thing is, my next to youngest brother is also supposedly on the spectrum. He took the Baron-Cohen AQ quiz, and scored in the same range. He considered it to be bullsh*t. Of course, I didn't see him go anywhere near the hospital or the nursing home after Mom got sick. His excuse is that he can't stand hospital or nursing homes.

The only brother that seems to understand what I'm going through is my youngest brother. He and his wife have a low-functioning son and daughter. I don't get to see or talk to him that much, since his employer have him working rotating shifts.



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22 Jun 2013, 10:13 am

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So sorry for you loss, Callista, and for your family's grief. Already you've shown your thoughtfulness and that probably matters more to your family than you know. I might have an idea: maybe you could send them something you've made in your aunt's honour? Examples could be a special playlist CD of her favourite music to share, a photo montage, written poem or a special anecdote about your time with her, a gift basket of homemade treats or even delivered flowers. If appropriate, you might donate time (or funds) to your local Cancer Charity in her honour. Just writing them notecards and keeping in touch via email or telephone is the way to tell them you care. Like nebrets posted, you'll need time to adjust too. Take care Callista and all the best to your family now.


LabPet has very good ideas.

There are places like the Arbor Foundation who will take relatively small donations (like $10) and plant a tree in memory of your aunt http://www.arborday.org/join/tictim/

There are also public sites like In Memory Of where you can build a public tribute http://www.memory-of.com/Public/ It's free for the first 2 weeks and then you have to pay $4.95 a month to keep it up if you want to. I imagine there may be free sites that do this as well.

Take care, Callista. I am sorry for your loss.


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22 Jun 2013, 1:54 pm

Honestly, I think this wanting to help other people is kind of my own reaction to it. I have always tried to deal with distress by fixing the problem, or at least by going off and doing something that's useful and worthwhile. I'm pretty sure that volunteer work helped me survive several episodes of depression. So... yeah, in my own way, I guess I'm grieving too. I don't cry... I just get a feeling like, This is wrong, this needs to be fixed. The death of a human being is among the the worst, wrongest things I can think of.


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26 Jun 2013, 12:29 pm

Callista wrote:
Honestly, I think this wanting to help other people is kind of my own reaction to it. I have always tried to deal with distress by fixing the problem, or at least by going off and doing something that's useful and worthwhile. I'm pretty sure that volunteer work helped me survive several episodes of depression. So... yeah, in my own way, I guess I'm grieving too. I don't cry... I just get a feeling like, This is wrong, this needs to be fixed. The death of a human being is among the the worst, wrongest things I can think of.


That is understandable. When I lost my mom I cried, but not to the extent my family did. I grieved differently, I found different activities to help me make sense off things. Because they were different my family was worried that I was not grieving until I (with help) explained that I process grief different than others because of AS.


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26 Jun 2013, 12:50 pm

^ I am like both of you in this way. Coping with a close family member's death is really hard (I know) and I do think I might grieve differently (than neurotypicals). I keep quiet/private and I would prefer a tangible means rather than being emotively expressive.

Callista, I'm so sorry for your loss. I guess there's no one way, or any easy way, to get past that loss. But you will persevere over time. So I am sending you a fragrant bouquet of a dozen virtual wildflowers <imagine in your favourite colour>

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26 Jun 2013, 12:52 pm

A simple letter of sympathy is all that's required.

And remember, sometimes the best thing you can do to comfort someone is to say nothing. All the platitudes in the world (regardless of how true they may be) mean little to nothing when someone is grieving.



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26 Jun 2013, 10:57 pm

^ This.

A personal message in a card or letter, plus listening to them when & if they want to talk about your aunt and their grief.



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27 Jun 2013, 3:30 am

Maybe you could send them flowers and poems? If you write a poem yourself telling them you are with them in thoughts that might help them a bit.


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