Adderall Alternatives for Manipulation Purposes

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My doctor is concerned about prescribing adderall because I'm allegedly bipolar. If I took an alternative that is marketed as a "dietary supplement" -- such as AdderX-- but has many of the same ingredients, and informed my doctor that it was working with no side effects, would this be a good strategy to get a legit prescription?

I have Nonverbal Learning Disorder which is basically ADHD + (my previous doctor said I met the criteria for ADHD also), so aside from the supposed bipolar diagnosis, there is really no reason why I shouldn't legitimately get an adderall prescription. I need stimulants to focus at my demanding and stressful summer job that has a good chance of becoming permanent and setting me up for an awesome, powerful career at a national agency in my nation's capital, so I need something like adderall to make sure I'm productive and sociable.

My main boss was out today, so I had to lead a conference call with a major U.S. corporation. Talk about stressful and anxiety-provoking!! I really should be able to get adderall with the severity of my Nonverbal Learning Disorder.

Helpful responses only please!! If you live in your mother's basement and don't experience the stress I do, I don't want to hear from you that I should always go through the proper channels--however long that takes-- and never take anything that isn't prescribed by a doctor!!

AddeRx sounds like either a scam or not worth your time. If it legitimately contained some of "the same ingredients" as Adderall, it would be illegal to sell or obtain. Adderall is just mixed amphetamine/dextroamphetamine and both are controlled substances in the United States.

As a mark of its quality, it misspells the name of its competitors ("Aderall") on its website. Do you really want to waste your money on something so shady???

Your doctor is not going to care about side effects or no side effects since these pills are unrelated and do very little, if anything at all.



Sorry, but you should really go through the proper channels and never take anything that isn't prescribed by a doctor.

lololol, 1.3-DMAA is potent s**t. FDA hasn't banned the substance totally, as it's not a controlled substance, but basically, this supplement will be fly by night as all hell as the FDA will send them a letter in a month. The supplements have quite a few deaths under their belt, including marathon runners and military people. Also, 1,3-DMAA is about as natural as high fructose corn syrup.

Anyway, Tyrion, just go get some 1-3 DMAA powder while you can. Forget the AddeRX s**t, the 1,3-DMAA in it is what's doing everything.

Anyway, the only quasi-legal alternative to Adderall besides 1,3-DMAA is ephedrine. Which is what amphetamines are synthesized from. Now, you may have heard "ephedrine is banned!" but it's not. It's only banned as a dietary supplement. You can still buy it as medicine. Go to Walmart, ask for Bronkaid behind the counter, pay like $10, you got ephedrine. It's less effective supposedly than Adderall, but hey. Also, I don't know if you're in Texas or DC. Texas may have some wild ephedrine plants growing growing, and you could make tea out of that. Look up Mormon Tea. I'd say the wild tea would probably be less harmful than taking the pure ephedrine pills. Basically think coffee vs caffeine pills.

I've taken Ritalin before and it actually made my NVLD worse. Don't know if you read that post. I'd try amphetamines if I could take them legally. But I can't.

I could give you a big post on what I've discovered and "life priorities" and all that, but hey, I'm not gonna ramble to you. Also with your bipolar, I'd say it's a Catch 22. Being stimmed to all hell and crashing back and forth obviously won't help a bipolar person. BTW, I have NVLD with the same (or worse?) gap as you. But that should be the info you want without me interjecting my opinions on your situation or whatever.

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Also there's Adrafinil. It's the pro-drug of modafinil. My mom took modafinil and didn't like it. But it's relatively "safer" than the amphetamines. Adrafinil for some reason is unscheduled and can be freely bought, but modafinil and armodafinil are scheduled RX only.

As far as your original question, for me getting Ritalin was as easy as "Hey I'm thinking of going back to school and have NVLD" to my doctor. As far as "look I'm taking a very questionable supplement and it's working awesome!" I think your doctor will laugh you out the door.

No. Adderall is a controlled substance, and is not sold as a dietary supplement; anything that is sold as a medication for ADD would not be the same substance and would not give you any information about whether Adderall would work for you. And, if you were to somehow get it without a prescription, that would be illegal, and most doctors would see it as a sign that you are a risk for drug abuse.

AdderX, by the way, is not Adderall; it's essentially a caffeine pill. If you want to try caffeine pills, it probably won't hurt. As far as that goes, caffeine can help with ADHD and is much safer than trying dodgy "dietary supplements" or looking to buy abusable prescription drugs without either a prescription or a doctor to monitor you.

Strattera is a non-stimulant ADHD medication. You might pitch that to the doctor.

Any GP can prescribe medication for you if you give a valid reason. Just see another.

Have you tried any homeopathic remedies for ADHD and Anxiety?

Sorry, but that's the only advice that would actually be helpful for you to follow. There's a reason Adderall is a prescription medication - it's a potentially dangerous medication, and one that could be abused as a drug, and therefore you're a lot safer if you only take it when approved by a doctor who can determine appropriate dosage, monitor side effects and keep track of possible interactions with other medications.

Also, NLD is not ADHD+. It's a separate condition. It can co-occur with ADHD, but it can also occur without ADHD. An ADHD medication might help someone with NLD+ADHD with their ADHD symptoms, but not their NLD symptoms. It would most likely do absolutely nothing for someone with NLD without ADHD.

If you do take AdderX, tell your doctor - not as an attempt to convince him to give you Adderall, but because it might interact with any medications that you're already on or that he's considering prescribing to you. (It's recommended to tell your doctor about all supplements and over-the-counter medication that you are regularly taking.)

Sometimes meds like Adderall and Ritalin don't even work at all. My nephew has been on both and neither helped.
They've offered me them tons of times and i refused.
Its like legal meth sales yet a psychotropic.
There is a chance that it might work, or it might not even work.

The herbal version sound like garbage

For any supplement you have to find reviews of the product, after reading as many as possible you can determine if a supplement is good or not. Addrena works great for me personally, but read other people's reviews around the internet. Also read about the ingredients, if they are not upfront about it it probably is a scam. A natural Adderall alternative should have both herbal stimulants and nootropics in it be powerful enough to help treat ADD and ADHD as an over the counter pill. It is not ridiculous to think that herbal stimulants and nootropics can help give you more energy and help you focus better, it would be silly to think they don't.

I have a bottle of 5mg DexedrineIR pills I'm no longer taking because I've been following the treatment protocol for the last month that we've been discussing. I could send them to you, but I'd MUCH rather you try what I'm trying right now because it's infinitely healthier and could completely negate the necessity of stimulants in a few short weeks. C'mon selfie guinea pig, what have you got to lose by trying this on yourself?

The problem with stimulant meds is that they can trigger manic episodes. They won't always, but it's worth being wary.

I had an amazing ~3 years on DexedrineIR overall, however, it's effectiveness fluctuated and then lessened. I only increased the dose from the minimum once, and then left it there. When it no longer worked I increased it again, but realized increasing it didn't help so went back down. With what I've learned since and have been discussing with Tyri0n, stimulants are bad for the root cause of my ADHD/OCD/Tourettes/ASD/what some have described as Bipolar symptoms. So, for the last few weeks I haven't had ANY stimulants. No caffeine, no nicotine, no dextroamphetamine etc, and combing that with a highly specialized diet and a couple other treatments I'm having the best success at treating all of these things in my entire life.

Tyri0n, get on this. It's so much better than stimulants to make it through short term. I know because I relied on them to make it through the last few years, and now after only a few weeks, I may never have to rely on them again. Ever in my life.

I am off most if not all of the candida triggers, but I still need stimulants. In fact, caffeine inhibits the growth of candida according to many studies, and the effects of antioxidants like coffee are beneficial to many aspects of health according to my doctor and many others.

My issues go way back into childhood. It's probably not even candida but something immune-system related that has to do with the prenatal environment or maternal stress. Seems like a lot of these things are somehow linked to genetics and/or maternal stress or infection. There's a good book by actual scientists I can recommend.

Things like the anti-candida/anti-inflammatory diet can help the symptoms of inflammation on autism or bipolar or whatever, but they are not going to be sufficient by themselves most likely. I certainly have found this to be true.

And I've found it to be the opposite by following a customized diet protocol to a T as well as incorporating a couple of other natural treatment methods. Sure it requires a fair bit of work and dedication, but I believe the other treatments I've added have shaved weeks, if not months, off of my healing time & so it's very likely why I'm experiencing such impressive gains in such a short period of time. I'm also gaining muscle mass even though I haven't been working out or running as much - I believe it's due to being able to digest nutrients better than ever in my life combined with the right supplements, especially l-glutamine for that.

I had a few cups of organic black coffee last week.. but I still haven't drank a cup of regular coffee since last September.

Everything I have read about healing this has so far been bang on and I'm experiencing it. I'm healthier in every way a bit more every single day. Head's definitely clearing up, but so are my lungs and my skin. It may only be another ~5 months of this and then I'll be free to eat whatever I feel like w/o the same undesirable effects I've had my entire life of turning every food I eat into a drug that messes with my brain and causes all of this stuff to go haywire.