Substances influences on an asperger mind

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What do you think about drugs influence in an asperger mind? Specially alcohol and weed.
Why do I ask that?

Because I don´t know if the asperger condition makes the mind interaction with those two substances different.
Like, last time I smoked was on Sunday. Then I got some yesterday, and today my left eyelid is trembling. I also notice that my sociability is also worse on the next 3-4 days after smoking. Then I become "normal". Also my handscratch mania becomes stronger and more often.
In the psychological range, some concepts in my mind that were like this become like that. They totally change. Its weird.

With alcohol it goes similar as in a NT mind, I become more capable socially.

And its a solid relationship, it almost always happen those stuff.

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Marijuana is the only substance that truly helps me. It makes me outgoing. Now, don't think that temporary inebriated outgoing. Since I started, I've been able to interact more easily with strangers, the few people I know. It's allowed me to be more accepting and tolerant of other people's views. Most of all helps with my depression, anxiety, irrational fears. Weed has helped me better organize my thoughts, relate to others. Let's just say that before it, I was so introverted they had to home tutor me. I mean, it makes me very happy, makes me think of things that I normally wouldn't think of as in solutions, better ways of achieving goals.

So some of your concepts are also changed. Interesting.

I have tried weed and I don't like it at all. It makes me feel......dull. that's the only way I can think of to describe it.
Alcohol affects me like it affects anyone but I don't drink too much. I seem to get intoxicated easily. Sometimes I have half a glass of red wine with my dinner.

That is more or less my experience with cannabis as well. There's another herb I use called kratom, it's related to coffee, and it helps me tremendously in ways like you described above.

I actually feel less dull through the day with cannabis. I feel more lively, anxiety isn't as present (unless I smoke too much, or if the strain is a really strong sativa. Cannabis can both decrease anxiety, as well as induce anxiety...depending on the strain and the amount that is consumed). It lessens my depression dramatically, and just all around smooths out my days and helps me sleep at night.

I smoke daily and have been for years, but very small amounts (two tenths of a gram a day, or about the size of a small marble), I don't like to smoke so much where I'm stoned all day, just one or two hits every few hours. Sometimes, though, of course I do like to smoke a bit more in one sitting, but usually only when I'm really wanting to relax or when I'm outdoors walking around doing something in nature.


Alcohol on the other hand...that stuff makes me sleepy, and numbs my mind/thought process, makes me feel really dull and empty.






Cannabis can occasionally cause slight tiny muscle twitches or spasms like that, nothing to worry about. The cannabis could have very well not even played a roll in that, things like eyelids trembling/twitching can happen even when one doesn't have cannabis in their system.








This part specifically, is what MDMA helped me with very much so after just a couple sessions with it. LSD and psilocybin played a major roll in this as well, but MDMA is what initially opened my eyes up to A LOT about my self, others, and how I interact....not just while under the influence of it, but lasting permanently. It's been the most therapeutic 3 to 5 hours of my life.

I don't do weed. I used to live across the street from the biggest marijuana dealer in the area while I was growing up. My last roommate was drunk and high most of the time. He is even more of a concrete thinker than I am. I not sure if he's on the spectrum, or if he's a schizophrenic. Either way, I can't get a word in edgewise, every time I have to deal with him, I feel like I'm stuck in a Foghorn Leghorn cartoon. Last time I was at his place to help his mother, I told her if it weren't for the fact I don't have $20,000 I'd buy a board foot of African M'Pingo wood (which is also known as black grenadilla wood, which is the material used to make the professional series of clarinets from Buffet-Crampon, LeBlanc, and Selmer of Paris, as well as pre 1950's Conn clarinets, Penzel-Mueller and Yamaha), make a baseball bat out of it, and use that baseball bat to club him over the head! I'd use grenadilla over oak or ash, as it's a lot more dense, but a lot easier to work with over oak or ash. If my mom were still alive, she most certainly would have clubbed him over the head with a marble rolling pin for talking back to her.

Besides, if mom and dad would have caught me or my other 3 brothers or my sister (had she lived past the age of 2) with the wacky tobacco, alcoholic beverages or any kind of illicit drug, we would have been shot with a 12-gage shotgun at sunrise, hung up by our privates for public ridicule, then our carcasses taken down at sundown and shot again.

Its the things that give clarity and comfort which help me out, and then theres booze which i think just kills all instincts. Thats why i seem to be connected with it. Anything that tweaks senses is very strange, leaves me paranoid insecure and disfunctional in any social environment - like a mega sensory overload where I cant get a word and ussually have to run and hide for a few hours by myself.

Though just about drug free now, apart from booze, methylphen, zoplicone, caffiene and kfc and Im pretty damn sure the effect on me is far different.

I've never tried weed and never will, it destroys your brain,. I know someone who uses it a lot and he acts and talks as if he was already part senile. I don't wanna end up like that.

I admit to enjoying the feeling of being tipsy from alcohol. It makes me more relaxed. Unlike some people, I don't become more social, just more relaxed, almost sedated. It feels good.
I have been actual drunk twice, and I didn't like it at all. I'm not doing that again.

I hate the effect weed has on me, even secondhand (just being around it). I get paranoid on a whole new level than most ppl. do. Cant stand it. I have no objection to others enjoying it though, plus so many of my friends love it. I hate it when someone just lights up without warning. I also become worsr socially and it affects me for a couple of days too.

Alcohol lessens my sensory issues with touch and lessens ocs, but doesnt lessen my sensory issues with sound or sight, often it seems to heighten my annoyance wwith these things. But I like alcohol. Socially, it does make me "more NT." And i like that. It also- when done in moderation- actually improves my coordination. I like wines and light liquers the best.

I have no intentions in smoking pot. I tasted alcohol out of curiosity , but I didn't like it. I am interested in this thread though because I am interested in seeing how substances affect the autistic brain. It is interesting that it would make them more social.

Weed makes me completely not want to be in social situations I've never felt so anxious in my entire life. i feel like i can't speak and that everything i say is embarrassing oh i think that people are conspiring against me/ going to do something to me.
I also don't like leaving rooms with other people in them when i leave i can hear them whispering about me (paranoia) they're not but I've heard them say bad things about me which is kind of scary, and it makes everything seem so slow time goes by so slow getting to a place stoned is an absolute nightmare it feels like it has taken years to get there. It also makes me extremely agitated and any little noise makes me jump.
i no longer smoke it.

alcohol: depends on mood , though usually very chatty, loud, flirty, i have no inhibitions and I'm everyone's best friend.
don't feel socially anxious at all unless i was feeling depressed before.

It's fine if you don't want to use it, but I have yet to see studies showing cannabis kills brain cells or "destroys your brain". Quite the opposite actually. Cannabis has been shown to promote neurogenesis (responsible for populating the growing brain with neurons), also shows rather pronounced neuroprotective properties (protects the structure and/or function of brain neurons). Cannabis also has anti-carcinogengic properties, by causing apoptosis within cancer cells (also known as programmed cell death).

The list of benefits that cannabis has goes on and on. This is something that's been known by humans for millennia, and now science is starting to prove it. Cannabis has been used for thousands of years but all of a sudden, less than a century ago, it's becomes something that's "bad"? All of those claims I made above I can back up with studies that have been done and cited in journals. A few in the links below.




Cannabinoids promote embryonic and adult hippocampus neurogenesis and produce anxiolytic- and antidepressant-like effects


Neuroprotective antioxidants from marijuana


Neuroprotective effect of cannabidiol
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15030397








It truly is medicine (among many other things)....There are reasons why it's illegal. I'm not going to get into that, but trust me, it's not because it's bad for you . I hope I don't come across with a "rude" or "offensive" demeanor (if those are the right words?), there's just a lot of mis-information and myths surrounding cannabis ("drugs" in general too) and I don't like seeing the spread of it.

Except that smoking it expose you to more toxic substances that cigarette as shown by science. So it may well be carcinogengic.

That is referring to the active ingredients. Obviously there are different ways to ingest it and comparing an un-filtered joint to a factory made cigarette with a filter is a little bit flawed.

Nicotine has been shown to limit the onset of dementia but obviously ingesting nicotine by smoking has other negative health effects that may mean you would not live long enough to suffer from dementia.

To the OP, everyone is affected by drugs differently, whether ND or NT. Cannabinoids obviously affect neural processes and are relatively long lived, with a half life of 7 to 12 days in the bloodstream, so experiencing withdrawal effects at 3 to 4 days is understandable. If you experience unusual side effects, what you smoked may have been treated differently by the farmers or contaminated with a chemical during the time it has been transported and stored.

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Weed just made me giggly or sleepy, and I just used it socially when I was younger. I do enjoy alcohol, but in a good beer or red wine.

Weed/hash can indeed sometimes have a positive effect but be very wary of it, because they are somewhat of a mood enhancer so when you feel bad and you use it to feel good, it can also cause you too feel even worse and you'll be stuck with that feeling for a few hours, also the effects of stimuli can increase rather than being reduced, a MD in my country once told me about that and strongly advice against the use of it when you have ADD or ASD.

Could also be the THC ( Tetrahydrocannabinol ) levels in some country's are different from ours but some of the most cheapest weed available here in coffee-shops ( not for actual coffee ) is known to have very fluctuating THC levels / batch so you never really know what you will get, I know our government wants to make stricter laws on what levels are appropriate and can still be considered soft drugs.