Interesting thread someone wanting to regress/ more autistic

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So I found san interesting thread on a forum called topix a poster was looking to be more autistic

The OP Frog writes

last few tips
focus on details ignore the whole picture
stay in the moment
don't make eye contact
don't read body language
lastely
ask this question on wrongplanet it is an autism/aspie forum

now to speak on my credential, I am a mother of 9 year old boy with severe autism. I also have a for ll intent and purposes sister with "mild," autism I also care fore a friend o the spectrum as well. al of them have to struggle hard every day. but since you wish to be in the purest form of autism possible let me tell you a bit about my son Jacob.
Jacob is 9 years old and though he has 10 to 13 words total in his vocabulary they are non functional and he can not use them in any way to communicate. I only ever hear them maybe once a year used in repetition like he would any sound he makes. somedays he will scream and cry for hours on end because he cant get the words out. he can't tell me if he is sick or injured or if something is bothering him. I have to monitor him all the time to watch for subtle signs that something is wrong. often times when he is sick he will scream while e he punches himself over and over again. Jacob wanders and has no sense of danger. he has gotten lost and gone into very dangerous situations such as but not limited to bolting into traffic, going neck deep into a quarry, running into a stream, climbing onto a strangers car and climbing under a strangers car.
his sensory issues are really bad and he needs to wear sunglasses and shooting range headphones when we go grocery shopping. any trip to a store is like going to war for him and if it is longer then 20 minutes we WILL have a meltdown.

We are still working on teaching him to use the potty but have had little success and he needs to be in diapers. I believe he is unable to sense when he needs to go.

his meltdowns range from mild to severe and they can come with self injury and last for hours or even days. we don't know what causes many of them except, sickness, frustration, anxiety and pain from his sensory issues or a change in his routine.

Jacob needs a predictable routine or he falls apart and will either shut down or meltdown He can't go to regular school because they can't handle his issues. I homeschool Jacob myself. We have an OT, PT speech and ABA therapists coming in and out of our house on a daily basis!

Jacob has no friends except for his sibling Zack who is 5 and family members. He relies on me for everything I am his advocate I am often his voice.
Jacob is a brilliant and loving boy he loves nothing more then to be held or cuddles. he so badly longs to connect. He also loves to give kisses. Jacob will hug complete strangers He struggles and tries hard everyday and everyday I am so proud of him.

Should you choose to go through with this you will have many many struggles as well. There is a VERY high likelihood your family will shun you for it, many people will accuse you of doing it for attention. you (if you work) will likely become unemployed. you are also likely to loose friends. you will likely also be unable to obtain many of the resources and services you will need. Many in the autism community will likely turn against you as well. this could also end up hurting those who love you but lastly if you go through with it in the longer term it could possibly be irreversible and you could end up with impairments in your speech and verbal communication.

Note my sister who has mild autism and my friend with Moderate autism can't get the services they need so unless your able to show your regression is the result of a medical issue odds are you wont get the services you will need after regressing

lastly I have a question

if you don't believe in severity levels how do you expect to be able to become "more autistic,"?

Hmm I don't see where the OP in that says they hate neurotypicals or anything to that effect, seems more like they are unhappy about attempts to change them that have not been helpful and just feel like they are getting forced behavioral modification they don't want and ranting a bit about it.

I think the responder should take a break from the 'OMG I've been cursed with an autistic child.' bandwagon.

I can see where that poster is coming from. While some NT skills will be useful for me to have, I do NOT want to be 100% NT. I don't want to become a "sheep" who does things only because everyone else does, and I know the tyranny of groupthink. Nor do I want to start placing more importance on looking smart than actually figuring things out! I think the world in general cares TOO much about image.

Being newer, I don't think I know who the person is, but that being said...

I view the feedback as a particular kind of manipulation. It was phrased so as to be "helpful" but really, the point is to chastise the original poster for not appreciating all of the "neurotypical" things he has learned.

To be honest, I see parts of both sides and I disagree with parts of both.

Wishing to be less functional than you are now seems silly to me. I understand that the person may feel that he has lost certain aspects of himself (he mentions creativity) and I can understand wanting to regain that, but to wish yourself to your lowest form of functioning seems a bit bizarre IMHO.

While he didn't SAY he hates neurotypicals, it has been my experience that many people with this strong of an opinion on such matters often do. Neurotypical bashing gets very wearing over time, especially as a parent because there comes a point in many a parent's lives when they are accused of not loving or accepting their kids because they want to help them. It's a sensitive topic. I can see where the rant came from, even though I do not agree with it.

I think the OP should examine what specifically he lost that he wants back (for example, would he like being incontinent again?), and I think the responder should spend more time trying to understand what the OP is really saying and less time trying to prove how absolutely miserable her son is as a way of showing the OP how wrong he is.

I can understand that wish.

I was very unhappy for many years as a teenager because I wasn't NT and also "lost" my autistic side. I was "lost" in between and I needed very long to find my place and also to accept that.

I was very classic autistic as a child, so I know all that how it feels like "not talking" and everything.
But now, I'm happy the way it went, because I'm able to live on my own etc.

That just made me sick I couldn't even be bothered to read it all. Okay so a ret*d person can go back to being ret*d by not using their life skills anymore they have learned and oh forget about learning how to spell their name and learning their phone number. A dyslexic person can go back to reading poor again and spelling poorly and having more difficulty. An ADHD person can go back to being disorganized too and having a shorter attention span again, hey lets all regress back to our old selves shall we and I can go back to being mute again and go back to not understanding people well and have more of a difficult life and go back to being rigid I act like a control freak and want everything my way and I dominate how others play when I am with them. Now that person wants to be more autistic again?

Wow... Topix doesn't have the best reputation as a lot have been trolling or try to get attention on there. Topix reputation is filled with knowledge there are trolls.

Its possible the OP on Topix was just trying to get attention, and it's possible maybe it was someone serious or half serious. I guess i would never know. The wording of the OP seems extreme. He wants to regress all the way to the "purest?" form of Autism. Or most severe form i would assume.
The mention of NT makes me think it's someone familiar with this site (he also named wrong planet) i don't know of many sites that refer to NTs yet i don't get out much.

The autistic mother that replied back to OP i think was trying to make him see how hard it would be to regress all the way back. It would be instead of talking, screaming and crying.
The woman has an autistic son and other relatives, and she probably would love her son to function more so. Then someone on Topix the OP puts up that post it's kind of like well the OP just took everything for granted. Any progress ever made to help him, anything he ever learned.

The OP seems to have hatred towards NTs and blames them for "forcing anything into him".

I hope i worded this post correctly enough. Topix can have it's share of a lot of trolls that other sites i have belonged to will not accept any Topix links or commentary as it's usually fictional or trolling.



Honestly, IMO, i think it's some attention seeking kid messing around on the internet.

In the mid 1980s they had no spectrum, nothing for Autism unless you were classic case and then it was bad. They didn't have the knowledge.
They still got me special education help in school and that teacher was able to recommend a theraputic horse back riding program to my mother, then i went to the horse back riding therapy for 8 years.
I am thankful for the help i got in a time when they just didn't have the advancement to know.
They have not cured me, or completely helped me or anything like that, i am just thankful that they made the steps to put me in special and then suggest the program, and for me to be part in the program for so many years. I also gained a mentor/ mother type figure at the riding therapy.

I thought the post the OP quoted was very provocative. It could have bee a troll like Chloe said.

The truth is, things are "forced" on kids all the time, NT and autistic alike. Kids aren't always reliable judges of what is in their own best interest. My daughter would be toothless by now because she hates the taste and sensation of brushing her teeth, but I "force" her to do it anyway, ykwim?

It sounds like the op is saying that he wants to stop faking nt.