Flawed logic??

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Hi. Today I bought a 2X shirt in Juniors and it fits fine. (I'm an adult 27) Needs to be washed I could have perhaps went one size down. Anyway I tried to joke "Hey look I'm a fat teen" and mom said hush. She interprets that shirt sizes are all different for each person depending on the make or model of shirt. Some are M/L/XL some feel smaller so go a size up or are too big so go a size down etc. To which I agree on. But Juniors 2X! What's next 3X/4X My LOGIC is if you are a teen in 2X you need to lose some weight!! !! SHEESH!

Before you know it there wont be a Big/Tall store for men and they will just sale fat clothes at Walmart. How fat is our nation going to get! I'm not skinny I'm 140lb. but still 2X in the juniors department!! !!

I didn't say "Fat teen" to pick on my little sisters (whom are teens) but to make a point 2X!! !! COME ON!

I have only heard of 2X in womens. I don't even wear a women's size. My mom wears a 1X and that is a size 16. The average clothing size in America is 10-12. I wear a smaller size than that but i don't go by size, I go by how it fits me and sometimes I want things loose. I guess they are selling women sizes in Juniors now.

It's not flawed logic, it's manners for anyone who wears that size, especially teens, who might be standing nearby. They probably get plenty of jabs already for their weight without hearing that, by a grown woman's logic, they wear fat girl clothes and not just clothes. They're already aware of their size and fat-shaming is not what's going to help America develop a healthier relationship with food, weight, and their bodies, just a more fearful and insecure one (but hey... if it's skinny what does it matter? ).

Doubt you'd like it much if things you had to use were referred to as being for ret*ds. It's not so much your comment that irritates me, it's that you think accuracy alone determines whether or not you should say something - at your age. This isn't one of those things that is going to result in disaster and deception if it's not spoken.

It doesn't seem like flawed logic so much as another case of "let's not hurt anyone's feelings" thinking vs. "I say what I see" thinking. The thing with "let's not hurt anyone's feelings" people is that, even if they know that you don't mean to hurt people's feelings, they still won't approve of what you say if someone's feelings could get hurt by hearing it.

This particular subject ("politeness" and, particularly weight) is interesting to me, as someone here on WP posted a link to a blog post written by an Irishman who had recently visited the United States. He said that people were too concerned with being "polite", and somebody needed to tell all the fat people to lose weight, lol. He said that in his social circle, if someone smelled bad or something, their friends would let them know and it wouldn't upset them. Different cultures, different mores.

It's wrong to call yourself fat all of a sudden? Just reminds me of the time when someone wrote on shape of a mother about herself saying "Before I got pregnant I’ve seen many pictures of post partum bellies and I was worried that after my pregnancy my own belly will be ugly and pouchy and the skin strechmarked and saggy" and other women took offense and called her judgmental and said she hated other women with that stuff and I was like WTF. People sure think strange. Now all of a sudden saying negative things about yourself is putting other people down?

No, but if zeldapsychology calls herself a "fat teen" for being able to fit into the clothing, it implies that any teenager who can fit into those same clothes is also fat.

It's the fact that it's said by a grown woman where teenage girls who may already have quite a few body image concerns can hear it, and justified with things like:





I wouldn't think much of it if not for the attitude. It would have just been a joke that didn't get a laugh.

I don't think the nation's health and weight issues are something to be overlooked, but I don't agree that people should make potentially hurtful remarks in public with no thought or concern for others whatsoever. That's not a good solution. There's a pretty thick line between something like a South Park episode that parodies overweight characters or a woman commenting on her own belly and real people in a store thinking that if their remarks are hurtful it's someone or everyone else's fault for having something to insult in the first place.

It's especially crude coming from an adult to teenagers. One's attitude towards people younger or smaller than them says a lot about their character.