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Rudywalsh
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18 Oct 2013, 7:32 am

There is no cure insight for Cancer, a disease that continues to claim many lives throughout the world today. Nobody understands what causes autism, bipolar and many other mental conditions we live with in society.

Medicines are there to help mankind, and yet our health is held for ransom, we have to pay to better our health if we want to improve ourselves, meanwhile drug companies in the United States alone are clearing $300 billion a year in profits (with dependency comes profit).

It seems that when scientists make a brake through with medicines and technology, it will go to those who can afford it, it’s a race to get that patent and make a lot of money. How this is a good thing for mankind I don’t know.

With almost 50 million people living with autism, and millions of undiagnosed people living with the condition worldwide, in just over one hundred years of trying the medical world have gotten nowhere with autism.

I was just curious I guess, why are scientists so brilliant?



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18 Oct 2013, 7:37 am

Probably for the same reason that Catholic Priests are so 'brilliant' - there is money to be made in prolonging a crisis.

Either that, or the problems are just too complex for an easy solution.


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18 Oct 2013, 7:58 am

Scientists are brilliant because they keep finding solutions to (very) complex problems.

Medical care application is not done by scientists, it is done by administrators (managers who are financially minded in their outlook)



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18 Oct 2013, 8:08 am

-Our technology is still "primitive", and the results doesn't magically appear.
-Scientistics do basic research, the applied science is managed by other social actors.



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18 Oct 2013, 8:08 am

It's not the scientists, its the need for profit. Also, scientists often view problems from inside the system they're in, which is what's responsible for the problems in the first place. Science does not provide easy solutions. That's what politics is for. And they profit from profit.



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18 Oct 2013, 8:34 am

The world is a very wobbly place to live, there was a time society looked up to real thinkers, philosophers and great scholars. Now the world is run by tyrants and politicians, I have no idea what the difference is between the two.

”Opportunity and temptation, one provokes the other, greed...



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18 Oct 2013, 9:07 am

power brings out ones true nature...


having too much power corrupts even those with the most pure intentions.



wow im pretty good at this philosophy stuff.



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18 Oct 2013, 9:08 am

Rudywalsh wrote:
The world is a very wobbly place to live, there was a time society looked up to real thinkers, philosophers and great scholars. Now the world is run by tyrants and politicians, I have no idea what the difference is between the two.

”Opportunity and temptation, one provokes the other, greed...


But was it any other way? Ever heard of the saying, the more things change, the more they stay the same?



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18 Oct 2013, 9:09 am

Codyrules37 wrote:
power brings out ones true nature...


having too much power corrupts even those with the most pure intentions.



wow im pretty good at this philosophy stuff.


yay, I get to use another quote, "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men.".



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18 Oct 2013, 9:13 am

yah just look at Miley Cyrus



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18 Oct 2013, 9:31 am

“Only mankind puts a price on what nature provides for free...



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18 Oct 2013, 9:41 am

Rudywalsh wrote:
“Only mankind puts a price on what nature provides for free...


not true. if you ever get a chance to observe a turf war amongst animals or watch a sapling struggling to make it up past the shaded canopy in a thick forest, you will see that everything alive puts a price on what nature provides.



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18 Oct 2013, 10:42 am

Scientists will be even more brilliant if they found a vaccination for norovirus.


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18 Oct 2013, 11:04 am

Nature does have its on battles. I was referring to mankind’s nature, it’s our nature to learn, so we must pay cash to do so. Every creature on earth is born naturally, we have made up a substitute environment and called it a hospital, we have to pay to give birth. Other mammals have to hunt for food, that’s a battle all animals take part in. Mankind has to work for cash money, or beg on the streets.

Birth, food, learning, a few of nature’s gifts we put a price on. ”We manipulate nature to suit our own selfish needs, for wealth and money, greed...



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18 Oct 2013, 12:53 pm

Joe90 wrote:
Scientists will be even more brilliant if they found a vaccination for norovirus.


They have :D

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/nor ... y-progress

Quote:
SAN FRANCISCO — A vaccine in early testing partially protects against a common diarrhea-causing virus, a small trial finds. The culprit, norovirus, is a group of viral strains that includes the infamous Norwalk virus, which plagues some cruise ships. Norovirus causes up to 21 million infections each year in the United States, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates.



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18 Oct 2013, 3:59 pm

Rudywalsh wrote:
Nature does have its on battles. I was referring to mankind’s nature, it’s our nature to learn, so we must pay cash to do so. Every creature on earth is born naturally, we have made up a substitute environment and called it a hospital, we have to pay to give birth. Other mammals have to hunt for food, that’s a battle all animals take part in. Mankind has to work for cash money, or beg on the streets.

Birth, food, learning, a few of nature’s gifts we put a price on. ”We manipulate nature to suit our own selfish needs, for wealth and money, greed...


True. We totally suck. I had this argument with someone once. They kept eulogising about art and architecture and scientific discoveries. And I asked them to point out how that has improved the life on the planet for anyone other than humans and they couldn't do it (actually some species like rats and cockroaches and foxes are thriving in urban environments. Also mould etc) but overall, we are cutting the branch we are sitting on and congratulating ourselves about it.

le sigh