"He's a little broken and he needs me."

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08 Nov 2013, 8:32 pm

This was a quote from the latest Big Bang Theory episode, "The Proton Displacement", said by Leonard about Sheldon. I know Sheldon has never been officially outed as an aspie, but the fact remains that given his symptoms, it's the only explanation for the aspects of his behaviour that aren't OCD or narcassistic. I'm curious to know your thoughts regarding aspies being called, "a little broken", and how this might impact peoples' views of us for the future. I haven't really made up my mind about where I stand yet.


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08 Nov 2013, 8:52 pm

I am not a broken version of me.

But--yeah, OK--in the bigger picture, a little broken. That's why there's a diagnosis, and why I hate parties but wish I didn't.
If everything is A-OK and hunky dory, then you have no impairment and no basis for a diagnosis.

I'm OK with it. I am a little broken and I need people because of it.



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08 Nov 2013, 9:02 pm

I'm a little broken. Who isn't? Most likely more autistics are a little more broken than most NTs', from the scars of being treated as being "less than,'" more than by our actual wiring.



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08 Nov 2013, 10:11 pm

There is nothing "broken" about me. It's just the rest of the world that's broken.


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08 Nov 2013, 10:20 pm

When compared to the real world, I do feel broken. I've always felt broken, just didn't know why. I'm just better able to accept that now.



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09 Nov 2013, 12:46 am

<--- People at work thinks he's broken.
<--- Labor Ready thinks he's broken.
<--- DVR thinks he's broken.
<--- His lawyer thinks he's broken.
<--- Now DSHS thinks he's broken.

Am I broken? Well, if it walks like a duck...



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09 Nov 2013, 12:59 am

I find that it's actually quite freeing to think of myself as "broken". Because, if I'm "broken", then it isn't my fault!

It means that I have different challenges in life than the ones than other people. Things that are easy for other people are difficult goals for me. So it doesn't matter if other people are ahead of me in some areas - I'm not playing by the same rules.

I spent a long time thinking that I was lazy and stupid. I'd prefer to think of myself as "broken".



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09 Nov 2013, 1:03 am

Everyone is a little broken, and that's okay.



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09 Nov 2013, 2:00 am

Shikari wrote:
Everyone is a little broken, and that's okay.


Fascinating, that's almost exactly what my friend said to me earlier when I told her about this quote. Having thought it over, you're all probably right, a lot of us really are a little broken; I know I am. As long as we have people around willing to help us when things surpass our capacities, like Leonard, there's no reason our brokenness should prevent us from doing and being whatever we want.


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09 Nov 2013, 2:33 am

which is worse- being broken or being warped?



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09 Nov 2013, 2:55 am

I don't watch the Big Bang so I can't say for sure but this is supposed to be humour is it not? In real life a lot of people seem to view differences they can not understand as "broken". Do the majority of people who watch this program use it to define autistics? I really don't know either.

StarTrekker wrote:
Shikari wrote:
Everyone is a little broken, and that's okay.


Fascinating, that's almost exactly what my friend said to me earlier when I told her about this quote. Having thought it over, you're all probably right, a lot of us really are a little broken; I know I am. As long as we have people around willing to help us when things surpass our capacities, like Leonard, there's no reason our brokenness should prevent us from doing and being whatever we want.


The everyone is important here, it's not just about us. Another way to look at it is "No one is perfect."

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which is worse- being broken or being warped?


I think this is a product of the persons own character, someone who views another as broken is probably more negative than the person who thinks another is warped, although I don't see a criticism in that phrase I know the connotations in America are very possibly different, or maybe the humour went straight over my head?



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09 Nov 2013, 2:59 am

neilson_wheels wrote:
auntblabby wrote:
which is worse- being broken or being warped?

I think this is a product of the persons own character, someone who views another as broken is probably more negative than the person who thinks another is warped, although I don't see a criticism in that phrase I know the connotations in America are very possibly different, or maybe the humour went straight over my head?

the fact that you recognized a dark humor in it tells me it did not sail over your head. :thumleft: I am not really broken [aside from a few bones now and then] but I am definitely warped beyond unwarping.



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09 Nov 2013, 3:18 am

auntblabby wrote:
the fact that you recognized a dark humor in it tells me it did not sail over your head. :thumleft: I am not really broken [aside from a few bones now and then] but I am definitely warped beyond unwarping.

As long as you are happy in warpsville.
I'm usually seen as strange, unusual, distant etc. that's fine. If someone views me as broken then I'd appreciate if they let me know as soon as possible, so I don't waste any more of my time on the ignorant fool.



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09 Nov 2013, 3:35 am

I haven't watched that show, but if Sheldon has OCD and narcissism, then he has some mental illnesses in addition to the Aspie traits. That implies that there's something out of balance, something that he could recover from--the OCD more so than the narcissism, which is more of an extreme (albeit maladaptive) personality trait.

I don't know what the writers meant when they described Sheldon as "a little broken", but I'd be willing to bet that it's probably more a matter of anxiety than nerdiness. An emotionally stable adult autistic who is as independent as Sheldon seems to be may be seen as mildly disabled, eccentric, nerdy, or oblivious, but they probably won't come across as "broken". An NT with OCD may easily be described as "broken", especially if he displays obvious distress or anxiety.

But wanting to take care of someone, especially if your goal is to somehow "fix" them, is a very poor basis for a relationship. If this character actually does believe that this is the primary reason they are in a relationship, then it will become quite dysfunctional as she attempts to "mother" someone she should see as an equal.


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09 Nov 2013, 7:41 am

AspieWolf wrote:
There is nothing "broken" about me. It's just the rest of the world that's broken.


yep
it's the rest of the world that needs constant company, cant get alone without, dependent, and thinks everyone has to be the same.
i dont feel broken. i may have some problems, but who doesnt?



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09 Nov 2013, 9:12 am

AspieWolf wrote:
There is nothing "broken" about me. It's just the rest of the world that's broken.


it sometimes feels that way indeed, but i wont go as far as to say that either.

i once read a story that explains the difference quite nicely.
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imagine school for toasters, everyone going there, including the teachers and parents, were toasters and all is well.
at some point, however, a coffee maker joins the school. now obviously, he could not make toast to save his life and was rediculed for that, the toasters also called him 'broken' or 'a flawed design'.
this situation stayed for years and the coffee maker started to believe he was indeed broken untill at some point the society needed a hot beverage, something no toaster could effectively produce. at this point, the coffee maker stepped forward: "i can do that!"
since this day, the toasters respected the coffee maker for what he could do instead of rediculing him for what he could not


also:
Quote:
both an elephant and a fish are ret*ds if judged on their ability to climb a tree