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01 Dec 2013, 10:28 pm

I've read that some kids with AD(H)D get good grades up until high school where the work load and organization required gets ahead of their organizational skills.

I've always been an A student (though, given, I have very lenient "teachers" who usually don't take too many points off for being late...)

It's my first year of high school, though, and it's finally happening. My disorganization is getting wildly ahead of me. I flunked a quiz because I forgot to study for it and I couldn't focus to study when I had the chance before class. I forgot to study for a spanish quiz, missed a few geography assignments, and left a paper in the printer.

My mom keeps asking me why I forget to study, why I forget my assignments. And all I have for her is a lousy "I don't know."

I'm just frustrated because I've always been a decent student and now my brain is getting in the way >.<


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01 Dec 2013, 10:34 pm

You're diagnosed as on the spectrum?


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01 Dec 2013, 10:39 pm

Not diagnosed as anything, but highly suspicious that I might have AD(H)D.


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01 Dec 2013, 10:59 pm

Third year in high school and I'm starting to run into similar problems as well... I'm also not diagnosed with anything though. I could be just lazy and unmotivated.



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01 Dec 2013, 11:14 pm

UndeadToaster wrote:
Third year in high school and I'm starting to run into similar problems as well... I'm also not diagnosed with anything though. I could be just lazy and unmotivated.

I'm just having a hard time with organization. Remembering that I have a paper due the next day when it's 11:59 PM on that day isn't helpful. It's only my first year of high school and everyone says I'm doing a lot, but I don't think so.


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02 Dec 2013, 8:33 am

11th grade student diagnosed with ADD here.
I am an average student in general because I am good at some subject and suck at others.
I am good at: natural sciences, algebra, english grammar assignments, latin, art;
I suck at: geography, history, philosophy, geometry, literature, essays/writing classes, chemistry, biology.
I am just average at physics.
I've always been an average student but yeah since HS started I've gotten a lot more work. Know what? I try not to study that much. I think that studying too much would just confuse me even more. I usually rely on my long-term memory and my intuition.
Also I don't need to study for the subjects I am good at.



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02 Dec 2013, 1:18 pm

I had the same problem in school. I was diagnosed as upper end moderate to severe ADHD in 6th grade, and my grades had already begun to falter due to my organizational skills and poor attention span (if it didn't match with something i like). I was only diagnosed a couple of years ago (or thereabouts) as having ASD. In junior high and high school it was poor organization and bad memory that got me. I couldn't remember assignments, lost them, and things like that. Never needed to study because the tests were so easy, it was losing assignments or not doing them that got me in academic trouble. If it helps you could type up a daily and weekly task list for yourself every weekend to help you remember everything. I had to do this and carry a copy of each list with me everyday. I still have to do this from time to time. Just a small suggestion.


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02 Dec 2013, 3:00 pm

Poor organization was a nightmare for me in middle and high school.

I was lucky to have very tolerant teachers. They knew I was conscientious and knew I knew the material, and it was generally easier to let me hunt for it and turn it in late than to watch me have combination meltdowns and panic attacks if I couldn't hunt up or redo whatever I'd lost.

I COULD NOT make up things at the last minute. I COULD NOT take tests if I had not studied, because I COULD NOT focus past my anxiety. I COULD pull all-nighters and frequently did...

...and that's probably why I had my first nervous breakdown in, like, 8th grade.

The following things would have been (or have been, in adult life) helpful (and are often recommended for ADHD/ASD kids): Large wall-sized calendar (with at least 2x2 inch squares-- learned that from my mamaw, who hid dementia for YEARS). Write EVERYTHING on it.

Daily planner, with assignments written in for the day (Tonight I Must), week (In The Next Seven Days I Must Finish), and month (Every SomeDay From X:XX to Y:YY I Have Committed To)-- this is so important, get extra time to write in the damn thing written into an IEP if you have to. Copy stuff from the planner to the calendar, from the calendar to the planner, and check them against each other before bedtime. If I did this religiously, I'd never miss an appointment-- but I get complacent and, next thing I know, I'm rescheduling that after-school optometrists' appointment that it took six weeks to get.

Carry a 3-ring binder-- one HUGE one, or two medium-sized ones. In one goes your planner and an INDIVIDUAL FOLDER FOR EACH AND EVERY CLASS. In the other go notebooks, or looseleaf paper with subject dividers-- again, for EACH AND EVERY CLASS. Color-coded, if necessary. One is for carrying around papers, the other for taking and keeping notes (Though I prefer the One Giant Binder System).

Clean out the locker/binder/bookbag/whatever EVERY SINGLE FRIDAY-- Don't swear you'll do it Saturday, don't figure missing a week won't hurt. Seriously-- I did not learn to do this, and now it's a WHOLE FILING CABINET, a WALK-IN CLOSET, THREE SIX-FOOT BOOKSHELVES, and a MINIVAN. START NOW!! !!

Have some structure and order in the day, even after school. This came naturally to me because I'm a freakin' Aspie and I LOVE my routines. Come home, do something you want to do for about an hour, and then start on your homework. Do it for about an hour, then take a break. Do something physical-- Wii games, chores, go outside, clean your room. As soon as the chore is done or you're ready (no more than about half an hour), get back to the homework. Do it for about an hour.

A good bit of the time, this will have it done. Then you PUT IT IN THE BINDER, IN THE FOLDER WHERE IT GOES. You DO NOT stuff it in your backpack, in your text book, in your coat pocket, on your desk, or anywhere else. The binder goes BACK IN YOUR BACKPACK.

And THEN you eat dinner, have fun, hang out with friends, whatever it is you've been barely holding yourself back from doing all evening. ONLY then.

Unless, of course, you've got a PROJECT under the TO DO THIS WEEK heading. If something big is due in the next seven days, WORK ON IT. I realize it sucks-- my ADHD cousin and I both pretty much HAD to do everything at the last minute (or anyway thought we did). Life would have been easier for both of us-- she would have done better work, and I would have had many fewer panic attacks and sleepless nights-- if both of us had implemented a system like this.


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02 Dec 2013, 4:25 pm

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I COULD NOT make up things at the last minute. I COULD NOT take tests if I had not studied, because I COULD NOT focus past my anxiety. I COULD pull all-nighters and frequently did...

The opposite of me :lol:
It's not rare for me to forget to study for a test and just not being able to do so. In fact, I think that my last history test went pretty bad :lol: I might feel a bit anxious if I haven't studied but then I think "f**k it, it's just a grade" and I write down whatever I remember. Or whatever comes to my mind that seems logic. Or I just don't write down everything if nothing comes to my mind.
It's not rare for me to make up things at the last minute, either. I hardly ever make plans because I'm not good at planning.
Also, I was never able to study at night.



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02 Dec 2013, 7:06 pm

UndeadToaster wrote:
Third year in high school and I'm starting to run into similar problems as well... I'm also not diagnosed with anything though. I could be just lazy and unmotivated.


With the figures you quote in your signature, I'd talk to a school counselor and get yourself evaluated for autism.


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02 Dec 2013, 7:29 pm

I'm homeschooled, but I have two homeschool co-ops and my schedule is WACKY

Monday: chem class from 9-11, lunch/study hall until 3, home at 4
Tuesday: home, swimming at 5:30-6ish
Wednesday: home/errands, youth group at 6:30
Thursday: classes from 8-5, play practice from 5:45-9
Friday: home/errands/swimming
Saturday: errands
Sunday: church/errands


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