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30 Dec 2013, 8:27 pm

Do you think having Asperger's is like being high?


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30 Dec 2013, 8:38 pm

What do you mean?



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30 Dec 2013, 8:39 pm

Yes.

As I said, I believe (based on my experiences) that Asperger's is a food chemical induced drug trip.

Further to that, I've done several safe recreational substances over the years and have been several different kinds of high (sometimes at the same time lol) & I can tell you from experience that the altered perceptions & thinking, changes in sensory perceptions, anxiety etc and so forth are all uncannily similar to the effects of drugs - whether pharmaceutical or recreational.

Sure, it'd require a heck of a lot of biochemistry studies to be done to prove it with certainty, but I know what I've experienced and am sharing that point of view transparently.


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30 Dec 2013, 8:49 pm

No, but it makes me want to GET high sometimes - mostly when I'm at some kind social gathering.

There is a certain euphoria connected to special interests though.



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30 Dec 2013, 8:51 pm

redrobin62 wrote:
What do you mean?

Sensory perceptions and your emotions. I've seen posts on here talking about people thinking Aspies are high when they're not. It seems like a lot of my stories, artwork or music could be created by a person who is high.


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30 Dec 2013, 9:10 pm

For the most part, no. I'm very sober despite some of my deficits with social interaction and sensory integration.

wozeree wrote:
There is a certain euphoria connected to special interests though.

I can agree with this to an extent. I've always predicted that the intensity of our interests activate pleasure centers in the brain, perhaps similarly to some drugs.



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30 Dec 2013, 9:35 pm

I've been all kinds of high, kids, AS doesn't even vaguely resemble such a thing. :roll:

It much more closely resembles being in a state of psychological shock, or an endless low-grade anxiety attack.



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30 Dec 2013, 9:39 pm

Willard wrote:
I've been all kinds of high, kids, AS doesn't even vaguely resemble such a thing. :roll:


Speak for yourself.

Since AS symptoms are your default mode.. maybe you can't tell when your perceptions are altered by it nor to what degree and that they may in fact be chemically altered in a similar way to which drugs effect the brain?

If you can't draw that conclusion from your own experiences, maybe your AS symptoms that others find to be similar to drug trips are simply very mild and so you don't believe they're comparable?


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30 Dec 2013, 9:52 pm

I've never tried any illegal drug, so I don't know what high is. But for me AS just makes me spacey and unfocused, with a bit of dissociation at times. The world can seem visually fragmented, like a giant puzzle. And my emotions are difficult to control....



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30 Dec 2013, 9:52 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
As I said, I believe (based on my experiences) that Asperger's is a food chemical induced drug trip.


You're tripping on an autistic personal obsession that you cannot let go of - the clear proof that your theories are WRONG. You have not alleviated your autistic symptoms in any way, shape or form - your constant obsessive rants about your miracle cure are in themselves a demonstration of one of the primary symptoms of AS. You are not cured. You demonstrate your autism with every post. Sorry to burst your little bubble of delusion, but you're still one of us, like it or not.

And you're not a doctor.



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30 Dec 2013, 10:01 pm

Willard wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
As I said, I believe (based on my experiences) that Asperger's is a food chemical induced drug trip.


You're tripping on an autistic personal obsession that you cannot let go of - the clear proof that your theories are WRONG. You have not alleviated your autistic symptoms in any way, shape or form - your constant obsessive rants about your miracle cure are in themselves a demonstration of one of the primary symptoms of AS. You are not cured. You demonstrate your autism with every post. Sorry to burst your little bubble of delusion, but you're still one of us, like it or not.

And you're not a doctor.


You've never met me. I don't care if you are or aren't a doctor, if you'd met me a year ago and observed me & then again today you'd see the stark differences.

I know full well what Autism symptoms are as I've lived them for over 30 years. I know full well how much my thought processes, anxiety, interactions with others, sensory perceptions and so forth have all changed for the better over the last several months. I don't need to be a doctor to know how I think and feel now is different from how I've thought and felt for my entire life.

I continue to post about it here on wp not because I'm obsessed, but because it's truly the single most valuable thing I can contribute to this community and I believe it can help many people who's Autism is caused by the same root digestive cause.

You're not me any more than I am you; you cannot possibly pretend to know what symptoms I've alleviated.

If you'd care to prove whether this will or won't help you, try the basic diet for a couple of weeks and either prove or disprove it to yourself. No one else' experience matters, only your own. But it seems, like most here, you're far too stubborn due to your Autism traits to be open to the possibility that healing a digestive issue will change the way your brain functions. I find it quite sad, really.


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30 Dec 2013, 10:02 pm

Being high is like being high. Having Aspergers is like... well it's all you've ever known so you don't know anything else. But it seems like your asking if an NT person were high would they feel like us? As in feel like an Aspie. Which just doesn't make sense. I'm a modern hippie so I know what high feels like and I can tell you exactly what it feels like... an Aspie whom is high :p


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30 Dec 2013, 10:08 pm

Willard wrote:
I've been all kinds of high, kids, AS doesn't even vaguely resemble such a thing. :roll:

It much more closely resembles being in a state of psychological shock, or an endless low-grade anxiety attack.


I don't know if I have an ASD or not, but that certainly resembles my experience of the world. If being high were like that, I doubt anyone would bother :roll:



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30 Dec 2013, 10:10 pm

No.
Being high is much more enjoyable.

goldfish21 wrote:
As I said, I believe (based on my experiences) that Asperger's is a food chemical induced drug trip.

Are you serious?



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30 Dec 2013, 10:21 pm

Ann2011 wrote:
No.
Being high is much more enjoyable.

goldfish21 wrote:
As I said, I believe (based on my experiences) that Asperger's is a food chemical induced drug trip.

Are you serious?


As a heart attack.

Read the thread in my signature for my take on it. It's long and a bit of a rough draft, but all the info is there as to why I believe this. Feel free to PM me about it vs. hijacking this thread if you wish.


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30 Dec 2013, 10:25 pm

I was thinking this the other day about bipolar psychosis and an LSD trip and I think there are stronger hallucinations experienced in an LSD trip. It might be the same for autism. When I was last stoned I felt like I had a shutdown without anxiety. I was staring dreamily at objects and just content to be in my own thoughts even though people were around me. I was even mildly hallucinating. I know it's not normal to hallucinate on pot.

When I've talked to other people who have smoked pot they seem really honest like many people usually are here. It's kind of annoying because you don't expect it.

Speed is a whole different experience. That's just mania.

Special interests do feel like a type of drug but for me it's not as intense when on a manic high.

So, I don't think the experience is the same. Some things are mimicked like executive function problems and even having poorer motor skills. It might make it easier to get along with people because to them they're acting so abnormal yet it's pretty similar to what we experience most days. I said before my sister and her friends got stoned and could barely walk a straight line and messed their words up, and that's all quite normal for me. Sometimes when I'm hyper/hypomanic or even just mentally tired I just laugh too. I get sensory overload that feels good too especially when I experience a blood sugar crash.

I have a mood disorder as well as hormone imbalance and let's not forget temporal lobe epilepsy so I have some drug related experiences without taking anything. I'm pretty sure drugs have permanently messed my brain up and I haven't even taken that much.

So, in conclusion drugs maybe have a stronger effect than if someone experienced those things in their brain naturally. Just a theory. I haven't yet tested it out.


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