Is there anyone who scored highly on the mind in the eyes

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03 Jan 2014, 10:19 am

I think I got 43. My body lang. skills are a little odd. I know I have a neurological impairment as my mum told me that as a baby I couldnt identify anger but at some point I picked up on stuff. Apparenlty living in na volatile household "helps". Anyway does anyone have any high scores Id be very interested to hear your experience

EDIT: wow 32. The average is 20-24! What's going on here? What exactly does this test? If my social cues reading is less proficient than NT's why do I score sdo highly here?

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Developed by Baron-Cohen et al. (1997, 2001), the Reading the Mind in the Eyes Test requires individuals to determine mental states from photos of pairs of eyes. Used in over 250 studies, it has been conceptualized as an advanced theory of mind test that is relatively free of general cognitive abilities. Given the sensitivity of the instrument, many studies with healthy adult samples have used this instrument as a measure of individual differences in social-perceptual processes that contribute to theory of mind and overall phenotype. We administered the two-subtest Wechsler Abbreviated Scale of Intelligence, a face-processing task (Cambridge Face Memory Test), and the Eyes Test to 42 college students. Surprisingly, verbal IQ contributed significantly to the variance in Eyes Test performance while the face perception measure did not. These findings have both practical and theoretical ramifications for interpreting Eyes Test results in normative adult samples.


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Presumably, individual differences on an implicit social-perceptual task should be minimally influenced by participant differences in verbal IQ. However, our results show that in a college sample with a mean IQ close to national norms, verbal IQ alone accounts for almost 25% of the variance in Eyes Test performance. In the current study, verbal IQ was estimated using a measure of expressive vocabulary that taps basic vocabulary knowledge as well as other expressive language skills. Following the original Eyes Test instructions, we provided a list of definitions for all the descriptors and we encouraged participants to consult the list whenever they felt uncertain about the meaning of a word. Nevertheless, it may be that the relation between verbal IQ and Eyes Test performance is driven primarily by individual differences in vocabulary knowledge. However, it seems more likely that other cognitive processes contribute substantially to performance differences. Reasonable candidates include verbal-reasoning and verbal working memory.


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03 Jan 2014, 2:45 pm

I scored 34/36.

The RMET is not a simple social perceptual task. It is a complex reasoning task for both autistics and neurotypicals, and has been positively correlated with IQ in multiple studies (VIQ as quoted here, FSIQ in other studies).


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03 Jan 2014, 9:02 pm

I got almost all of them right, too, but that's also because I have a high I.Q. and can use process of elimination in a multiple choice test. But if I compare that test with my real experience of daily life, it's a totally different ball game. Unless I'm being yelled at or complimented vociferously, I can't read an NT at all.



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04 Jan 2014, 1:53 am

I score reasonably well at it, but a lot of it is deduction/reasoning (as is the case, I find, with a lot of the facial expression tests I take).

I discuss my recognition of nonverbal cues in more detail in this post:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/postp5835932.html#5835932



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04 Jan 2014, 3:46 am

Yeah, I don't think it's a very good test of autism at all. Being able to read emotions when they are there in front of you, multiple choice, with nothing to distract you, is a much different task from reading emotions that appear for a quarter of a second while you are also listening to someone talk.

I score in the average range on the test, despite having significant difficulty reading emotions in practical situations.


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04 Jan 2014, 6:20 am

Hmm I dont want this thread to promote the idea that this is an IQ test as there was a German study which i'll dig out that stated that there was little correlation between intelligence and test results. That is people with high IQ's and Low IQ's showed no more or less proficiency


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04 Jan 2014, 7:56 am

I think there is a big problem with this test, because it gives me a list of four possibilities and then asks me to choose from the four possibilities. That means that if I was to guess on every one I should get 1/4 of them correct.

I noticed when taking the test that when I looked at each picture and immediately looked for what I thought the eyes indicated, usually I didn't get the answer correct, but if I read all of the options presented I could often choose the correct option. Taking it today and having had some memory of previous time I'd taken it, I got 28.

I tried a different way of taking the test, where I just wrote down what emotion I thought of for each respective image. Then at the end I put a check next to any answers which were close to correct. In that case, I got 17.



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04 Jan 2014, 11:55 am

I dislike this test because 1) In real life it's not appropriate to stare at someone for over a minute to figure out their facial expression. 2) The test faces are very strongly angry or sad on PURPOSE, whereas real people's expressions are a lot more indeterminate. People don't always scrunch their faces when angry or pout when sad. People can hide their emotions too. This is why it gets confusing.


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