Bovine (cow) milk and AD(H)D-traits/symptoms

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03 Jan 2014, 8:30 pm

I have stopped consuming bovine (cow) milk and noticed a dramatic improvement in attention and mood and reduction impulsive thoughts, anxiety, and obsessions. Has anyone else done this and noticed improvements like this?


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03 Jan 2014, 8:56 pm

Well, if not doing something that is exploitative of sentient creatures and damaging to the planet seems to make you feel better, then I would encourage you to continue not doing it.

That said, post hoc, ergo propter hoc is not a valid syllogism. The peer-reviewed evidence on this subject is non-existent (which doesn't mean there is no effect, merely that nobody has systematically looked for one).

All I can say is that some clinical evidence is required, but I'm pleased that you are functioning more effectively.



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03 Jan 2014, 9:08 pm

Well, I do have a biology degree, and although I am not the best experimentalist, I think of it this way:

For me, at least,

Coffee + bovine milk = me feeling like s**t
Coffee + soy milk = me feeling quite well


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03 Jan 2014, 9:12 pm

Studies for any sort of drug-type reaction to food don't seem to show much, probably because they're tested on the population in general and, unsurprisingly, the population as a whole doesn't react negatively to food. However, if one were to do double-blind studies on the subgroup of people who claim to notice an effect from a particular food (like cow milk for instance), I suspect these people would be validated. For instance, that's how non-celiac gluten intolerance came to exist.

Not too long after my celiac diagnosis I went totally dairy free and I have yet to get back to trying dairy. I have some mental improvement of symptoms with my newfound diet, depression is the one to have improved the most. I don't actually know for certain if dairy, cow or otherwise affects me beyond loosening my bowels.


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04 Jan 2014, 2:15 am

I had a similar effect from giving up the lions' share of refined carbs.



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04 Jan 2014, 3:01 am

Nope. However milk can make my ADHD symptoms worse but all types of dairy food can do that too.


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04 Jan 2014, 3:39 am

I usually feel better when I get milk in my diet. I suppose it's just because milk is a reasonably good source of protein, fat, and calories, and relatively easy to digest. (That is, if you aren't lactose-intolerant, which is fairly common especially in people whose ancestors didn't have domestic cows or goats.)

It's not milk specifically that makes things better, though. Just milk, meat, vegetables, fruit--you know, generally wholesome food.

It's when I end up eating the same thing over and over, or subsisting on junk that's easy to prepare, that I lose focus. I take vitamin supplements now to prevent nutritional deficiencies from being unable to feed myself a reasonably good diet, so that helps cover for at least some of the drawbacks, but it's still not the same thing as eating the actual foods.

I don't know how often I've wished for my meals to come in neat little boxes, everything pre-measured, so I wouldn't have to worry about preparing food or managing my diet. And no, those horrible TV dinners don't count; they're either nutrient-poor or too small, or both. (For example: 175 calories does not make a meal, however much "Healthy Choice" thinks it does.)


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04 Jan 2014, 4:05 am

Frieslander wrote:
I have stopped consuming bovine (cow) milk and noticed a dramatic improvement in attention and mood and reduction impulsive thoughts, anxiety, and obsessions. Has anyone else done this and noticed improvements like this?


Yes. I stopped eating a lot of other things & have been on a medicinal diet for several months. Check out the thread in my sig if you'd care to learn more about it. Feel free to pm me anything about it.


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04 Jan 2014, 9:22 am

i dont drink any milk (not soy either), as untreated dairy gives me intestinal problems.
however, if it is treated (boiled, part of a meal, ingredient of pudding...) there are no real problems.

i also do not notice any real difference in days where i have consumed treated dairy and days where i haven't