If Autistics Were the Majority [long term[

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08 Jan 2014, 1:08 pm

I am aware that if suddenly, overnight, Autistics were the overwhelming majority, that chaos would ensue for a period of time. But, what do you think an established Autistic world would be like? How do you think it would be different? Do you think it be better? Worse?

I believe that in the long term [and that's what we're talking about]it would be nearly unimaginably better and that the 1% of what we now refer to as NTs. would be almost entirely treated with compassion and respect.

Where do I begin? For one thing, there would be less prisons because autistics are by nature much less likely to commit crimes. The prisons there still were would be truly places for treatment and reform because even autistics who are not "bleeding hearts" would logically be aware that sending people who break the law into a "monster factory" would be counter productive.

Parenting would be way different. I am not a Christian, but one oft quoted verse is "Raise up a child in the way he should go and in his old age he will not depart from it [or something like that. Well, the more literal translation is actually pretty awesome. It is "Raise up a child in the way he is BENT,[blah blah blah]" That gives a totally different meaning to the verse. Maybe an autistic wrote it because autistics are more likely to inherrantly know to raise a child to be who they are, the way that THEY are 'Bent."

I believe some version of the interaction badges, such as used at Autistic retreats, would be standard. People would be able to tell who is wanting to interact and who would like to be alone. They would also be able to know what someones special interest is that they would like to talk about. Hell, they would be able to tell who was looking for a free air mattress or knew who was looking for a job as a grape stomper without having to make a bunch of small talk to get around to the subject.

Less Wars. Way less wars. Being in general much less greedy and power hungry than is now the norm would greatly in itself curtail the number of wars. Also, because of less lemming-like natures it would be much less likely for an autistic population to believe ridiculous propaganda on how war is a good thing.

Okay, this is just a start. I could post dozens of positives, but, what do you all think?



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08 Jan 2014, 3:02 pm

In that utopia, would also be free of cruelty?



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08 Jan 2014, 3:06 pm

As long as I can sit and play piano (with headphones) or read books quietly without people complaining about one being asocial and aspie world would be great.



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08 Jan 2014, 4:22 pm

I disagree. I think that NTs would be considered crazy and delusional in that world. I also don't think there would be less wars or crime.


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08 Jan 2014, 4:41 pm

DevilKisses wrote:
I disagree. I think that NTs would be considered crazy and delusional in that world. I also don't think there would be less wars or crime.


They are delusional.

Delusional being meant in a neutral sense rather than a negative or positive one. Some of their delusions may actually be beneficial, some may not, but they are delusions all the same.

Explore the true nature of reality removed from cultural belief systems. Add in a little meditation....Belief systems will begin to the look like the delusions they actually are.

Then again, I could just go to funny places when I mindfully meditate so it may just be me. I could be the one who is delusional...for not believing in delusions called belief systems instead.

*Funny places = complete serenity and absolute inner peace + energy + vastness + heightened awareness + a place where belief systems cease to be.

Only got there once but it was weird (good weird) until a surge of fear rudely jolted me out of it. My ego felt like it was losing itself. I may take up meditation again. I'd like to go back there if I can and explore....



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08 Jan 2014, 4:45 pm

I think there would be less wars, but only because we wouldn't be socially organized enough to have a war. We would also have a harder time establishing hierarchical systems. It's hard to say what would happen with the the crime rate.



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08 Jan 2014, 5:00 pm

The world would be more simple overall, with less "entertainment", which is a social phenomenon. A much more silent society.



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08 Jan 2014, 11:44 pm

There would be no malls. :) :) :) :)

Standard lighting in public places would be dimmer and would not be flourescent.
Small talk would not exist.
You would not have cliques at school.
Less socially based reality TV more informational TV
More non fiction literature, less fiction.
A larger portion of the fictional literature, TV shows, movies would be science fiction.
Less sporting events
Actors and singers would not be celebrities because people wouldn't be obsessed with them.
Celebrities as we know them would not exist.
Song lyrics would not be mostly about relationships


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09 Jan 2014, 3:35 am

" Keeping up with the Joneses"no longer a well known phrase.

Being "hot" no longer more important to very many as being intelligent, kind or honest.

Fewer bars and nightclubs.

Less superficiality.

Fewer plastic surgeons.

More home based businesses.

A smaller Las Vegas.

Less professional sports teams.

More spoiled cats.

More hand crafted items.

Less plastic.

More musicians.

Cleaner planet Earth.

More museums.

More art galleries.

More kaleidioscopes.

I know many will disagree with this, but I believe MORE cooperation with each other since there is not as much emphasis on being THE winner.

More chocolate [ okay, maybe not]



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09 Jan 2014, 4:41 am

Tribalism is probably required for a consistently peaceful cooperation inside of the group. If everyone was independent-minded, this would cause a lot of conflict in everyday life.

However, the lack of tribalism also means that fewer and smaller groups are formed (probably based on interests and world views that happen to be similar), and generally there would be less conflict on a larger scale (wars).



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09 Jan 2014, 7:59 am

"There would be no malls." I think the problem with this is that it gets crowded, but it's still needed. What if you need to buy something?

"Standard lighting in public places would be dimmer and would not be flourescent. " :thumright:
"Small talk would not exist. " This is great.
You would not have cliques at school.
Less socially based reality TV more informational TV. :thumright:
More non fiction literature, less fiction.
"A larger portion of the fictional literature, TV shows, movies would be science fiction." While science fiction is a good genre, I think the rest of fiction shouldn't be dismisses.
"Less sporting events" I don't dislike that nor like that.
"Actors and singers would not be celebrities because people wouldn't be obsessed with them." The same with this. I don't see the point with obsessing with someone you don't know at all.
"Celebrities as we know them would not exist. " If It's different for the good, I'm ok with that.
"Song lyrics would not be mostly about relationships" Good.

" Keeping up with the Joneses"no longer a well known phrase. I don't get nor know about that well known phrase. So, it doesn't affect me.

"Being "hot" no longer more important to very many as being intelligent, kind or honest. " I wish there was someone with those three adjectives.

"Fewer bars and nightclubs." I don't dislike nor like that. I guess it depends of the location, if some place has too many or not, but it's not something that concerns me, anyway.

"Less superficiality." I'd love that. If superficiality could be decreased to zero, even better.

"Fewer plastic surgeons." What if someone, for example, had an accident and his/her face got burned and needed the surgery? That would be still needed. While that of the Hollywood style-I dislike that one.

"More home based businesses." As long as is an ethical good business.

"A smaller Las Vegas." Why is Las Vegas too big at the moment, or something like that?

"Less professional sports teams." It doesn't affect me.

"More spoiled cats. " Not just cats, all animals if not spoiled, should be treated well. I don't understand people who abandon their pets like if they were nothing.

"More hand crafted items." Good.

"Less plastic. " As long as as it's recycled .

"More musicians." More museums. " More art galleries." " More kaleidioscopes. " All these things of more, more, more, less, less, less. The problem is not quantity. What it's important is quality over quantity. Just because something comes with lot of quantity doesn't make it any better. Sometimes what makes something special it's its uniqueness. It's something you cannot find easily or everywhere. Being different in a good way, that's what makes it to stand out from the rest.

"Cleaner planet Earth." Good.



"I know many will disagree with this, but I believe MORE cooperation with each other since there is not as much emphasis on being THE winner." Cooperation in what sense?

"More chocolate [ okay, maybe not] "



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09 Jan 2014, 9:56 am

It would be the same.